Who would you pick for the Men's 1500 team at the WC's

Rankin ran ok due to the fact that he is as fresh as could be, let's not blow his decent preformance into something that it shouldn't be.

Are you kidding me? Rankin fresh? He's raced more than any other american 1500 runner this season. Hell, he doubled almost every meet that he ran this spring. He was tired by the end of the collegiate season and he still came over to Europe. As far as him not being able to run 3:34, why not? He just ran 3:35 2 days ago, that's not that far off 3:34. A few days before that he ran a solo 3:38, besides Webb and Lagat, I don't think any other of our boys could do that.

I am as big of a Rob Myers fan as anyone, but your letting the fact that you 2 grew up together cloud your judgement. Yes, Rob has a phenominal kick, but so do Rankin, Lukezic, and Webb. Could Rob outkick any of them? Yes, but they could just as easily outkick him as they have prooved. If anything, Rob's biggest weakness is he relies to heavily on his finishing speed. He gets out well and into good position, then he fades in the middle of the race only to come back on everyone in the final 200 meters. I'd love to see how well Myers would run if he kept contact for 1300 meters before blazing that last 200. But seeing as my pr is 3:51, I am hardly an expert on the subject.

NFW wrote:

Are you kidding me? Rankin fresh? He's raced more than any other american 1500 runner this season.

When was his last race before his new PR? I haven't seen his name anywhere before that race. It'd be hard for him to race more than any US 1500m runner this spring considering Webb, Myers, Luckezic run practically every weekend.

And my past has nothing to do with my bias with Myers. His better than any other American distance runner. IMO.

Pretty sure this was Rankin's third race in Europe, after running a 15 and an 8, all within the past 10-14 days. And on what basis do you say Rankin couldnt run a 334? HE JUST RAN 335.

How can you be a poster on this board and not know what has been going on over the past few weeks. Rankin raced three times in Sweeden last week, run 1:47 to win, 3:38 (solo) to win by 10 sec or so and then backed that up with another 1:47. His 3:35.26 came shortly after those three races.

Can someone please tally up the number of races Rankin has run this year compared to Myers. Off the top of my head I would say that Rankin has run double the amount. In terms of numbers (of races run this year) I would say Rankin, Lukezic, Myers and then Webb.

JRinaldi wrote:

How can you be a poster on this board and not know what has been going on over the past few weeks.

Hmmm...I guess my first reason to that would be that I have a life outside of the internet. But, you most likey have been chatting with hot babes all day.

You sound like a wannabee Kenyan coach that makes all the athletss want to move to Quatar.

Here goes

1/29 1200

1/30 3k

2/13 3k

2/25 mile, & DMR 1600

2/26 mile

3/5 800 & 400

3/11 DMR 1600

3/27 1500

4/9 mile 3:57

4/17 800 1:47

4/30 1500, 800, & 5k

5/14 1500 & 800

5/15 1500 & 800

5/27 1500 & 800

5/28 1500 & 800

6/9 1500

6/23 1500

6/25 1500

7/10-25 800, 1500, 1500

So that's a total of 1 400, 8 800's, 1 1200, 17 1500 or mile races, 2 3k's and 1 5k. Most importantly, his mile and 800 pr's are from April, so don't go telling me he's fresh right now when he was running pr's 3 months ago. The fact that he's held up this long shows how big of a tallent he is. Now Dauby, how many races has Myers run? Also your comment about Myers being the best American distance runnner, shows just how biased you truly are.

I like Rankin. I especially like that he went after Webb hard in the 1500m final. But you have to put weight on him not making it past his NCAA prelim, despite being a faster runner than most.

I really like our current 1500m team. Webb for obvious reasons. Lukezic is a heady rounds runner who I think has an outside, but real shot at the finals, if the semis pace isn't blistering. After USATF's, Myers isn't as good as I thought (predicted him outkicking Webb), but think he has a 40% type chance of making the semis.

why do so many people gush about myers' kick? he has a totally normal kick for a 3:35ish guy. not discernably better or worse than webb, lukezic or rankin. he definitely earned his spot on the WC team, but he has never shown a kick that those other three couldn't be expected to match.

case in point: with 250m to go at USATF's, myers moved up on the outside of the pack, and got a step on webb. what happened? that one step was all he ever got, and webb immediately took it back and then some. then rankin passed him, then lukezic. he did pass rankin back, but his kick wasn't that impressive overall. and don't give me the "he was pushed around" excuse, cuz pretty much everybody but lukezic was too. and that's no knock on lukezic- that shows some patience and smarts (borzakovsky style!)

your fat sister wrote:

why do so many people gush about myers' kick? ......

case in point: with 250m to go at USATF's, myers moved up on the outside of the pack, and got a step on webb. what happened? that one step was all he ever got, and webb immediately took it back and then some. then rankin passed him, then lukezic. he did pass rankin back, but his kick wasn't that impressive overall.

You're right. But at the same time, that race showed me his kick wasn't as good as I thought, as my post stated. But prior to USATF's, he was consistently passing people in the last lap of his races. Maybe it was because he was sitting a bit more than normal.

NFW wrote:

Now Dauby, how many races has Myers run? Also your comment about Myers being the best American distance runnner, shows just how biased you truly are.

Dude, you're lookign at how many races he's ran since JANUARY. That's almost an entire year. And if you're trying to impress me, you're not. All of those races and the BEST he can produce is a 3:57 mile??? PLEASE, 3:55 and higher makes you a member of the sh!t squad. And I never said Myers is the best distance runner, but what I DID say os that he has the best kick, which he does. So take Rankin's weiner out of your mouth and go to bed.

And to tell you the truth, I really am not too familiar who Rankin is, so he truly must be a bad@ss, he's got quite the name for him self. Oh and one more thing, where will he be during World Championships? And where was he during the trials? Better yet, has he EVER beaten Myers, Lukezic or Webb? Go to bed Little Jonny, you're up way past your bed time.

your fat sister wrote:

case in point: with 250m to go at USATF's, myers moved up on the outside of the pack, and got a step on webb.

At what point in US Champs did Myers step in front of Webb? You must be watching something that the rest of the nation missed.

Dauby,

From one Ohian to another...your bias towards Myers is getting out of control. You are making yourself look silly . Please refrain from posting about your Robbie for at least a day and settle down.

F.U.C.K.

Fairfield Union Charging Knights

Dauby wrote:

your fat sister wrote:

case in point: with 250m to go at USATF's, myers moved up on the outside of the pack, and got a step on webb.

At what point in US Champs did Myers step in front of Webb? You must be watching something that the rest of the nation missed.

about 250m to go.

maybe you misunderstood "got a step on" - that means hewas further ahead than webb, not that he literally stepped on (or directly in front of) webb. it is pretty clear on the tape, myers is to webb's right and he accelerates and gets about a yard ahead, then webb counters and passes myers for good.

seriously man, you sound like a huge myers groupie. the dude is doing well, he doesn't need some obsessive fan piling undeserved titles on him like "best american distance runner" (ludicrous) or "best kicker" (unproven, and unlikely).

Dauby wrote:

[quote]NFW wrote:

And to tell you the truth, I really am not too familiar who Rankin is, so he truly must be a bad@ss, he's got quite the name for him self. Oh and one more thing, where will he be during World Championships? And where was he during the trials? Better yet, has he EVER beaten Myers, Lukezic or Webb? Go to bed Little Jonny, you're up way past your bed time.

i like myers, but shit. he will be lucky to make another team. two years from now, i would bet on rankin, webb and manzano.

this thread has shown that you truly do not have a life outside the internet.

Actually, you did say that "Myers was the best "America Distance Runner." so I am not making that up. And I am not trying to impress you with Rankin's 3:57, although it is faster than Myers ever ran in College. The point I was trying to make is Rankin has been racing hard since January, pr'd in April, and is now tearing it up in July. In other words when you said he was "fresh" in Europe, you were completely wrong. And yes, he did just beat Myers and Lukezic in Europe.

1 de Souza Hudson BRA 3:34.84

2 Rankin Jon USA 3:35.26

3 Lukezic Christopher USA 3:38.11

4 Kennouche Abdelslam ALG 3:38.44

5 Lunn Jason USA 3:39.47

6 Kipkurui Benjamin KEN 3:39.52

7 Hamblyn Paul NZL 3:40.50

8 Too Michael KEN 3:41.29

9 Gruber Charlie USA 3:42.68

10 Myers Rob USA 3:43.74

What really sucks about out of all this is that Rob is actually a great guy and a fierce competitor, but you're making him and yourself look stupid with all of your bullshit. Rob's always been good about doing his talking on the track, why don't you let him get back to that?

i wouldn't get to disapointed in him about NCAAs either. People don't realize how fast he is improving. He ran his first national final ever at USAs and did pretty well momentarily taking the lead from Webb. Now he raced a 3:35 after two 147s alone, and a 338 alone.

He can very well be the best 800 runner in the USA next year and the 3rd best 1500 runner behind Webb and Lagat (and not too far behinfd). Honestly if he beat Webb it wouldn't surprise me.

Best Kick? What is his 400m pr, his 800m pr. He can't match webb, so therefore he doesn't have the best kick. I mean you are acting like he is going to run down the best kickers in the world or something...give me a break, no give us a break.