Frisco. There's a reason it's so expensive.
Frisco. There's a reason it's so expensive.
Sasha Pachev wrote:
Orem, Utah. There is a long trail that goes though the Provo Canyon (Provo River Trail), it has marks every 110 yards (1/16 of a mile) and gets plowed during the winter. Altitude varies between 4800 and 5200 feet. If you like dirt trails, there are plenty of those as well. If you get a camper, or do not mind sleeping in a tent, you can drive off about an hour and be at 8000 feet, then come back to do workouts at 4500 feet at the BYU or one of the local high school tracks - they are open to the public.
As far as job opportunities, we have Qualtrics, Vivint, Adobe, Domo, Novell among the bigger companies, and an infinite multitude of little ambitious startups, some of which are not so little anymore.
Only problem is that in Orem, Utah you will always be an "outsider" if not of the LDS faith. Winter is long and pretty cold. They also have terrible temperature inversions.
https://www.ksl.com/article/46459972/in-case-you-didnt-know-8-ways-utahs-winter-inversions-are-killing-youTahoeTimRim wrote:
California is expensive and crowded! Reno is close to Tahoe, near the mountains, and way more affordable. If you go for a visit/job interview, check out Reno Running Company. Lots of good trails too.
https://www.trailrunproject.com/directory/8009103/reno-and-sparks
And it's also better than the rest of the country so...
TheFreshPrince wrote:
Bdjsjdhjs wrote:
Hello LetsRun,
I currently live outside of Philly. I don’t like it. I’m looking to move somewhere else. My main criteria are:
Good places to run
Strong running community/people to train with
I’m not a delusional sub-Elite thinking that moving somewhere else is the answer. I’m just looking to move somewhere that I would enjoy more. I’ve always loved the outdoors and am drawn to the mountains for sure.
No wife/girlfriend.
Work in insurance but could easily see myself changing careers.
The top of my list right now are Flagstaff and Asheville, NC. Not sure if there are many job opportunities out there though.
I can relate. My suggestion: Bel Air, CA. My life got so much better after I moved out there.
A little bit about me:
I'm also from Philly. West Philadelphia, to be exact. Born and Raised. I spent most of my days on the playground just relaxing and maxing all cool. I played a lot of b-ball outside of my school. Long story short, a couple of guys who were up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood. I ended up getting in one little fight and my mom got very scared and told me to move in with my Auntie and Uncle in Bel Air.
This move ended up changing my life for the better.
-Will
Oh, ps - beware of the taxi cabs in Bel Air. They reek.
Well played.
aoxomoxoa wrote:
If you're originally from the northeast, why not check out Vermont/NH/Maine. They are beautiful, cheaper to live in than Philly, and they aren't a bunch of conservative, gun-toting nuts like people who live in Arizona.
If not, go with Colorado. Legal cannabis, mountains, and legal cannabis.
So all the runners in Arizona are nuts huh?
The OP of this thread wrote:
Thank you all. Much appreciated. Some more context:
Former D1 - 3:48/14:05
For the insurance company that I work for I am an underwriter.
I am going to ask my manager in our 3rd quarter review about the possibilities of working from home.
I should also specify that I’m not in Philly but 30 minutes outside in the suburbs. I’m used to just saying Philly when I talk to customers that have no idea where in PA I live and work.
I’m fortunate that my work/life balance is good so that I can train before/after/during work at lunch. If I look back at 45 I honestly would not care about work. I would probably be telling my younger self I should have moved sooner.
I spent a year after graduation in the triangle area in NC and really enjoyed it but moved back up north for work. Originally from the northeast. Went to college up here.
You sound focused/motivated. Have you reached out to places like Zap/Reebok/Hansons/Team Run Eugene/Tinman? You could move to a Eugene/Boulder/Flag and probably be able to train with guys even if you're a touch off of the top end guys. You're young, I say go for it. I like the Eugene/PDX area from my 2016 Trials experience. Plenty of jobs in Eugene. You could do insurance or switch careers and work for the university or another small college. It gets a lot flack for whatever reasons on here (yeah there are homeless people like there are most places). Trails, beer, serious athletes.
If you could actually find a job in Asheville, I think that would be a wonderful place to live. I'm from Roanoke, and the mid-Atlantic is my favorite part of the country, I think. Though I currently live in the Pacific NW, and I love the weather here. But cost of living is just crazy high.
Please stay out of Austin. We're full.
Definitely not socialist cali, where the tax rate is now over 75%!!!!!
Bdjsjdhjs wrote:
Hello LetsRun,
I currently live outside of Philly. I don’t like it. I’m looking to move somewhere else. My main criteria are:
Good places to run
Strong running community/people to train with
I’m not a delusional sub-Elite thinking that moving somewhere else is the answer. I’m just looking to move somewhere that I would enjoy more. I’ve always loved the outdoors and am drawn to the mountains for sure.
No wife/girlfriend.
Work in insurance but could easily see myself changing careers.
The top of my list right now are Flagstaff and Asheville, NC. Not sure if there are many job opportunities out there though.
Not Portland, Oregon.
Move to Rochester, New York.
Or, Tuscon, Arizona. Sarah Sellers is there
Charlottesville or Williamsburg, Virginia
alsviðr wrote:
Longmont Colorado! Or some where like that to have Boulder and Denver at your fingertips.
You have prairie and endless flats or endless mountains. Arizona I would visit but never live.
Stay away from Colorado. We have too many newbs moving here.
Head further west wrote:
Sasha Pachev wrote:
Orem, Utah. There is a long trail that goes though the Provo Canyon (Provo River Trail), it has marks every 110 yards (1/16 of a mile) and gets plowed during the winter. Altitude varies between 4800 and 5200 feet. If you like dirt trails, there are plenty of those as well. If you get a camper, or do not mind sleeping in a tent, you can drive off about an hour and be at 8000 feet, then come back to do workouts at 4500 feet at the BYU or one of the local high school tracks - they are open to the public.
As far as job opportunities, we have Qualtrics, Vivint, Adobe, Domo, Novell among the bigger companies, and an infinite multitude of little ambitious startups, some of which are not so little anymore.
Only problem is that in Orem, Utah you will always be an "outsider" if not of the LDS faith. Winter is long and pretty cold. They also have terrible temperature inversions.
https://www.ksl.com/article/46459972/in-case-you-didnt-know-8-ways-utahs-winter-inversions-are-killing-you
Move to SLC proper we are a majority of non-mormons here. Also the inversions in winter are bad. But they are trapped in the valley. You can drive 15min and run in pristine mountain air. We also got lots of fun running clubs around. And the mountains are second to none. It gorgeous out here AND affordable.
Gold Coast, Australia ??
Ended-up in Colorado. Thanks again to all who posted.
Nyc!!! Jay-z is from nyc. It's also like literally the best place in the world to run. Not everyone can hack it tho.
I live outside of Philly, too. Way outside. If you don't like outside Philly the only place you can move is inside Philly.
Parts of California are crowded, and there are also some of the most remote spots in the 48 states.
I've traveled the western US pretty thoroughly, live in Minnesota.
Mammoth, CA is really amazing. The potential "problem" is that it is pretty isolated. If you're looking for urban energy, you won't find it. You will find tons of amazing outdoor recreation, landscapes, climates and eco-systems in a very compact area. Meb, Deena, and Hall used to live/train in Mammoth. And there are hot springs all over the place!
Park City, UT seems to get a lot of love from the outdoor recreation crowd and pro's train there. Park City does seems to somewhat avoid the non-LDS issue. There are so many non-natives in Park City that being non-LDS is normal there.
If I had no anchors, I'd live in a camper with satellite internet for work.
U.S. or U.K.? Ever since I was a kid I lived in Arizona, it was wonderful. The hot, dry wind knocked the young me off my feet every time, and it was intoxicating in its splendor. Then my parents were forced out of the country when I was 17(my father was in big trouble with the law). Their choice was London, but after five years of living there, it bored me with its rainy weather and gloomy weekdays. I decided to move. I was used to England and did not want a drastic change, so I decided to stay in the country, but move to Hampshire. https://trace-elliot.co.uk/ were very careful with the things I carried. Then I was once again convinced of the excessive neatness of the English
Yep if you dont like a place just get out. Why live somewhere you are miserable? Too many people get "stuck" in a life situation that they hate. There is a whole big world out there. You're free to go anywhere. A fresh start or new scenery may be just what you need to be happy.