Can Delilah Muhammad break 2 in the 800?

Definitely yes. Great natural speed plus strength as a hurdler. Also seems very slim almost like a distance runner.

yes she could, think about a guy running that fast for 400h, its hard to believe he wouldnt be able to break 2. Mist guys running that sort of a time for an open 400 could get close or break 2.

Yes She Can, but Sydney McLaughlin will break her 400 Hurdles Record and can break Kratochvilova's 800 Record If When she decides to run it.

Great Rivalry Hopefully they both go under 52 in the 400 Hurdles, but McLaughlin is younger and has much more potential, McLaughlin will likely break Koch's 47.60 for 400, They are pretty even now (edge Muhammad) but McLaughlin is the real talent.

Eight-hundred metres is usually not an event aging 400m &/or 400mH attempt to become world class at around 30 years old. IMO, if D Muhammad had decided at age 15 to be a 400/800 athlete, I am fairly confident she could have been a sub-50/sub-1:57.5 athlete by now. That said, 800m is the Achilles destroyer. There are a lot of male and female elite 800m runners with bad Achilles. Gold medalist at 400mH and world record holder is bad ass! Every 400m race and every 400mH race D Muhammad has her own lane. She does not have to worry about getting pushed, spiked or worry about getting boxed in as is the case in a 800m race.

Brandon Johnson was a 400 Hurdler, who gave the 800 a try at age 28 or 29 and ran 1:43.84, Harald Scmid of Germany was a 47. 4 Hurdler and sub 45 flat 400 runner who ran an occasional 800 and he ran 1:44

Muhammad could run a World Class 800 as I said, but Mclaughlin is 9 years younger so has much more potential to break the 1:53.28 for 800 World Record that has been around since 1983,

douglas burke wrote:

Brandon Johnson was a 400 Hurdler, who gave the 800 a try at age 28 or 29 and ran 1:43.84, Harald Scmid of Germany was a 47. 4 Hurdler and sub 45 flat 400 runner who ran an occasional 800 and he ran 1:44

Muhammad could run a World Class 800 as I said, but Mclaughlin is 9 years younger so has much more potential to break the 1:53.28 for 800 World Record that has been around since 1983,

Before McLaughlin is crowned as a great 800m runner, let's see her race sub-90 600m indoors. I think Marita Koch's 400m record cannot be broken by a clean sans PED women. I do not believe Jamila K's record can be touched. I think Jamila K is the same as Semenya, an intersex athlete.

no,sydney will never break marita koch's world record,nor will she break jarmila's record.not even close.she's good,but not that good.she might break dalilah's hurdles record in years to come but ill wait till i see it.and no,dalilah would not be able to break 2 minutes in an 800.she'd run around 2.03.if she trained for the event,yes,she'd go under 2 minutes,but only then.

old ... new tricks wrote:

Before McLaughlin is crowned as a great 800m runner, let's see her race sub-90 600m indoors. I think Marita Koch's 400m record cannot be broken by a clean sans PED women. I do not believe Jamila K's record can be touched. I think Jamila K is the same as Semenya, an intersex athlete.

What kind of test is that? 90 is worth about a 2:03 or 2:04. She'd be a pretty good college 800m runner.

Bad Wigins wrote:

old ... new tricks wrote:

Before McLaughlin is crowned as a great 800m runner, let's see her race sub-90 600m indoors. I think Marita Koch's 400m record cannot be broken by a clean sans PED women. I do not believe Jamila K's record can be touched. I think Jamila K is the same as Semenya, an intersex athlete.

What kind of test is that? 90 is worth about a 2:03 or 2:04. She'd be a pretty good college 800m runner.

Maybe McLaughlin just does not want to race fast in any event longer than 500m. If McLaughlin were to race sub-87.5 600m, she would be harassed on here to race 800m. She has a great thing going as a long sprinter.

douglas burke wrote:

Brandon Johnson was a 400 Hurdler, who gave the 800 a try at age 28 or 29 and ran 1:43.84, Harald Scmid of Germany was a 47. 4 Hurdler and sub 45 flat 400 runner who ran an occasional 800 and he ran 1:44

Muhammad could run a World Class 800 as I said, but Mclaughlin is 9 years younger so has much more potential to break the 1:53.28 for 800 World Record that has been around since 1983,

Add David Patrick (UTennessee) to that list. Well accomplished at both.

Jayordon wrote:

according to Sports Illustrated, , Delilah Muhammad had a pretty imperfect race when she set the world record at the USA Championships. They give some insight to her training as well. Muhammad regularly runs mile time trials the day after workouts. She runs "anywhere from 5:07 to 5:17." that's a lot faster than I would expect.

What I think is even more interesting, is her 800m times. Sports Illustrated said, "for 800-meter work, she could comfortably run 2:06 and she believed in a race, she’d dip under two minutes." what do you guys think about that? I don't think she could run under 2 minutes. I think that in a race, she could run 2:02-2:03. If she decided to train for the 800, then I could see sub 2 in 2-3 years.

Discus

Maybe, maybe not. Did that answer your question?

old... new tricks wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

What kind of test is that? 90 is worth about a 2:03 or 2:04. She'd be a pretty good college 800m runner.

Maybe McLaughlin just does not want to race fast in any event longer than 500m. If McLaughlin were to race sub-87.5 600m, she would be harassed on here to race 800m. She has a great thing going as a long sprinter.

She actually wanted to run an 800m while in college, but Floreal talked her out of it.

ksr wrote:

old... new tricks wrote:

Maybe McLaughlin just does not want to race fast in any event longer than 500m. If McLaughlin were to race sub-87.5 600m, she would be harassed on here to race 800m. She has a great thing going as a long sprinter.

She actually wanted to run an 800m while in college, but Floreal talked her out of it.

McLaughlin wanted to race 800m while you college you say. Which meet? I am not going to look her up on milesplit or athletic.net but I recall McLauglin raced high school XC a season or two. McLaughlin was awful. I tend to believe she was awful on purpose. I know McLaughlin did not race high school XC her junior or senior seasons. You're on here saying McLaughlin wanted to race 800m. No high school coach can make a 400m athlete race XC but a scholarship athlete in college? If McLaughlin raced 800m and did well she may have been ordered to do fall XC. I highly doubt McLaughlin wanted to go down the slippery slope in college of racing 400m. Doing roughly 3/4 of 400m training plus (40 to 60)miles a week as an 800m runner. I think the opposite.

From

There is no question that McLaughlin’s range has been established but in early May, McLaughlin toyed with the idea of running an 800 at the Kentucky Relays and decided to approach Floreal with the idea. She viewed it as an excuse to get out of a workout in the week.

“I chickened out but she wanted to do it,” Floreal says. “She was going to do it and the workouts that she’s done have indicated that she could run 2:03 or 2:04 easily. At some point, it would be fun to do.”

“Now that I look back on it, I don’t think I want to do that,” McLaughlin says. “I was curious of what I would be able to run. I hope he doesn’t remember that. It was just a one-time thing and that window has closed.”

Dalilah Muhammad at 52.2 could break 2. We had a 52.8 hurdler and he ran the occasional 800m, around 1:57-58.

Probably why she said she hated college.

Lets not forget the height of male hurdlers isnt the same as those of female hurdlers. I wouldnt neccesarily equate a 52 male hurdler to a 52 female hurdler. And running certain times while hurdling doesnt neccesarily equate to certain times for other events. I believe a lot of things must be considered. Blindly saying(as someone said above) that some guy ran a certain time for 400mh or 400m means she can too is absurd. Many things matter here. Rudisha could run 45 seconds for 400m and 1:40 for 800m . That doesnt mean everyone who runs 45 seconds for 400m can run 1:40 for 800m. Years of endurance based workouts, long runs, fartleks, milage, plus speed coubts a lot. Plus the biology of the athlete. Genetics and environment, nutrition, specialised training, diet, etc

McLaughlin is a prima donna. She's not breaking any World Records ever until she learns to be humble and not stick her nose in the air. Muhammad has paid her dues, is authentic, and shines like gold. GOAT.