Is there anything worse than home ownership.

Everybody's principal interest is self-interest, which is a way to say that people suck, and yes you are an asshoole. I guess you'll never be heard saying something like live-and-let-live.

PrincipalOne wrote:

Everybody's principal interest is self-interest, which is a way to say that people suck, and yes you are an asshoole. I guess you'll never be heard saying something like live-and-let-live.

That's a weird take on it. Live and let live is one of my strongest beliefs. It usually is a strong held belief with self-interested people. I don't want liberal voters telling me I need to do x, y, and z with my money. I don't want conservative voters telling me what substances I can ingest, or what women can do with their bodies, or whether or not gay couples can marry, or that I need to support a war I don't agree with.

I say live and let live! I'm very libertarian minded. I feel like you're an a55hole if you try to remove my freedoms from me, no matter how good your intentions are.

To be fair, it does sound like you are shifting your position some.

Your original statement was "When you decide to move out, I will find any excuse to keep as much of the security deposit as possible because I'm in this business to make money. "

The implication of this is that you are not looking to act in good faith, but rather, that you will make any argument that might be tenable, regardless of the merits of the argument. The word "excuse" really highlights that. You could have used the reason, but you didn't. Maybe that was a poor choice of words, but it is also probably what spurred on the strong response.

You’re a financial loser wrote:

If one is self employed the ONLY way to go is lease your car. 100% deduction on your schedule C vs only the interest if bought it with a loan or only depreciation if owned outright.

This is inaccurate. Lease or own...if you use it for business...all costs are deductible. The timing might vary a little. But in the end, there is little to no difference.

Smoove wrote:

To be fair, it does sound like you are shifting your position some.

Your original statement was "When you decide to move out, I will find any excuse to keep as much of the security deposit as possible because I'm in this business to make money. "

The implication of this is that you are not looking to act in good faith, but rather, that you will make any argument that might be tenable, regardless of the merits of the argument. The word "excuse" really highlights that. You could have used the reason, but you didn't. Maybe that was a poor choice of words, but it is also probably what spurred on the strong response.

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to the backpedaling A$$hole:

You have obviously realized that your stance WAS that of an A$$hole and have slowly backpedaled post by post.

Your initial stance was pure selfish exploitation.

You also defend your stance by saying the tenant chose your place vs other options.......but they probably didn't factor in that the landlord would exploit them over the deposit. You are unfairly up charging them beyond the quoted price.

I have rented from dozens of places and was usually pleasantly surprised with the landlord's leniency when I moved out. I think I only lost ANY money on a deposit one time and it was fair. And they could have usually 'justified' taking some for everyday wear and tear if they wanted and I wouldn't have spent the energy and time to fight it. People moving out are often moving out of the city and don't have time to deal with the hassle.

It's good to know the world isn't entirely populated with money grabbing A$$holes.

I think these are both fair posts. I haven't been backpedaling as much as clarifying. I posted a short message that I thought indicated I would, to the full extent of the law, get compensated for ANY damage that is done to my rental units.

If you've been a landlord, you know there are a lot of people that treat your property like garbage. Often, the security deposit doesn't even cover all the repairs needed. Renters, I can assure you, will find "any excuse" to justify why they shouldn't pay for damage. To play the game fairly, I will find "any excuse" to justify why they should pay for damage. I don't invent damage. I don't do anything dishonest. But I make sure irresponsible renters are held accountable. I'd be an idiot if I didn't.

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

I think these are both fair posts. I haven't been backpedaling as much as clarifying. I posted a short message that I thought indicated I would, to the full extent of the law, get compensated for ANY damage that is done to my rental units.

If you've been a landlord, you know there are a lot of people that treat your property like garbage. Often, the security deposit doesn't even cover all the repairs needed. Renters, I can assure you, will find "any excuse" to justify why they shouldn't pay for damage. To play the game fairly, I will find "any excuse" to justify why they should pay for damage. I don't invent damage. I don't do anything dishonest. But I make sure irresponsible renters are held accountable. I'd be an idiot if I didn't.

what percentage of the deposit do you typically refund? what are the most common charges?

I've never lost a deposit and wouldn't consider myself overly careful as a renter. I know some renters are hell, but wondering how common they are?

I have a unit my self to potential rent out but have been dragging my feet. I imagine it's more work than people assume.

Honestly, more often than not, I refund the full deposit or give them a list of items, and they fix them and I refund the full deposit. But I've had smokers when smoking was strictly prohibited. People that had dogs, when they weren't included on the lease, and the dogs pissed on the carpet, scratched at the door, and caused damage to the back yard landscaping. I had the one nightmare tenant that looked like they had a brawl in the house with holes in the walls and stuff torn off the walls.

Most common is probably people just leaving a huge pile of garbage. And I actually tell them they can come clean it out and get the full refund, or I will take the extra cleaning fee out of their deposit, and they just say to take it out of the deposit.

A broken window.

People dent and ding the crap out of the walls when they move in/out.

If that's how you do it, then that's not A$$hole behavior. I would expect ~20-30% of renters to do some sort of damage that would need repair or compensation. that's life.

the way you phrased it the first time really implied something else.

Landlords suck a$$ wrote:

Apartments suck. Landlords are the worst. I’d pay all that interest just to not have people dictate what I do when.

Plenty of years renting and never had a good landlord. One stole my deposit, constantly came over without proper notification and acted like it was their house. Every year the rent was increased.

Apartments are worse. Rent constantly increased annually. Rented a 1 bedroom with no AC in Santa Clara for $1250 a month. Due to fraud on my ATM card & checking accounts were frozen temperarily right when my rent check went through. I explained the situation and said they’d give me a week to bring a bank check. Instead 3 days later I was given an eviction notice. To stay I had to pay lawyer fees, late fees and increased monthly rent.

Renting sucks bro.

The fact that you said bro leads me to believe you're actually from Santa Clara..I live within 5 miles of you and don't have any of these issues. I never see my landlord unless I need something and I also have AC. Sounds like either you picked a crappy situation or you are a crappy tenant.

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