"Celebrate You" Fat Women acceptance?

just the opposite wrote:

societal translator wrote:

Just take note of how there are no "acceptably fat" men in that photo. They aren't advocating for fat men, because the unwritten and accepted narrative is that it isn't attractive for a man to be fat. Those guys get labeled as losers and creepy.

Actually quite the opposite. There is no fat acceptance movement for men because it's already broadly acceptable for men to be fat.

Sadly very true.

Just further degradation of our society. We now want validation and acceptance of our own sloth. The Colonies have sent their Kentucky Fried revenge.

semenyagoat wrote:

just the opposite wrote:

Actually quite the opposite. There is no fat acceptance movement for men because it's already broadly acceptable for men to be fat.

Sadly very true.

You are both wrong. Its because no one cares how men feel. And men don't need anyone trying to make them feel better.

well....this wrote:

semenyagoat wrote:

Sadly very true.

You are both wrong. Its because no one cares how men feel. And men don't need anyone trying to make them feel better.

Not really. I am the first to criticize hypocrisy regarding women equality. But the beauty standard towards women is way harsher than towards men. It should not be asked too much for men to have decent body, haircut, shaving and nice general body care. Sadly most men think its enough to wash your hands

semenyagoat wrote:

just the opposite wrote:

Actually quite the opposite. There is no fat acceptance movement for men because it's already broadly acceptable for men to be fat.

Sadly very true.

25 years ago my wife told me I was getting fat (which I was)

I would never have dared to say the same to her. LOL

semenyagoat wrote:

well....this wrote:

You are both wrong. Its because no one cares how men feel. And men don't need anyone trying to make them feel better.

Not really. I am the first to criticize hypocrisy regarding women equality. But the beauty standard towards women is way harsher than towards men. It should not be asked too much for men to have decent body, haircut, shaving and nice general body care. Sadly most men think its enough to wash your hands

You are all missing the point. Men and women judge on different scales. Some men are “allowed” to be fat, because they bring something else to the marriage/relationship powerful enough to overcome their fatness and still keep a lady around. Other men are definitely not “allowed” to be fat, as physical appearance is a big part of you bring to the table, and you lack other qualities.

Men weigh looks more significantly in their judgment of a potential mate, than women usually do. Imagine a photograph of a lineup of unemployed men, grinning like idiots, implying “love me as I am or you’re a terrible person.” Women would scoff, as men are doing here.

Thinker of deep thoughts wrote:

Fat people have every right to celebrate and to be happy with themselves.

That is very different from celebrating fat or being fat.

This movement celebrates the first not the second.

It's good to be happy with yourself even if you are not perfect.

I agree, but why then are so many of these "body positive" women demanding that everybody else love them as well? If it's just about "loving yourself" then why the need to protest fashion companies and demand representation in things like Victoria Secret, where physical beauty is emphasized, despite the low demand for "plus-sized" models.

No one is saying fat women can't be happy with themselves, it's the social coercion through political correctness that is being disputed.

societal translator wrote:

Just take note of how there are no "acceptably fat" men in that photo. They aren't advocating for fat men, because the unwritten and accepted narrative is that it isn't attractive for a man to be fat. Those guys get labeled as losers and creepy.

I just wanted to say that I didn't make this thread just to have a pop at fat women per se. And also I wouldn't equate attractiveness (or lack thereof) with weight either. One of the women who was interviewed (apparently a plus size model) was certainly an attractive woman.

My issue was more the bizarreness of the bbc spending a couple of days (they covered the Westminster Mile the day before) promoting the health benefits of getting fit, just getting started somewhere, anyone can get up and try running. And then bringing on a group, some of whom were so large they could barely run a few steps, and PROMOTING (that being the key word) that it was ok just be the way your were, and you should be happy with that, which was totally at odds with at their health / fitness message!

The above quote made me laugh because it touched on something I was considering when I posted this thread - there is no way in a million years they'd have had on a group of fat, beer bellied men saying "yeah, we like drinking beer and smoking cigarettes and just want to be accepted as the way we are and say to other men that it's ok just to let yourself go"!

I read a study that women self-select for tall men even subconsciously. They did a study in a journal awhile back that showed how women entered a room and immediately filtered out the short men. I'll try to find it.

Thinker of deep thoughts wrote:

Fat people have every right to celebrate and to be happy with themselves.

That is very different from celebrating fat or being fat.

This movement celebrates the first not the second.

It's good to be happy with yourself even if you are not perfect.

There should be a bit of shame if you are fat. That's the purpose of shame. You shouldn't feel good about doing a bad thing. Granted, people can take this way too far. You don't need to feel like a worthless human if you're fat, but at the same time you shouldn't feel 100% great about the bad choices you are making. Common sense.

Body positivity in theory is completely different than how it is implemented in real life.

In theory, its for people to have a better self image and self esteem, and not care what others think. Leading to a better happier life.

In real life, its for fat and ugly women who want to be perceived as good looking without having to do or change anything. They want everyone else to change their perspective, so they are viewed positively. How they view themselves is directly tied to how "society" views them. The social subjectivity of liberalism and feminism at its finest.

The Health Risks of Obesity are Worse Than Smoking, Drinking or Poverty.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB4549.html

Red Pill wrote:

I read a study that women self-select for tall men even subconsciously. They did a study in a journal awhile back that showed how women entered a room and immediately filtered out the short men. I'll try to find it.

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