Kejelcha, Chelimo, Cheptegei, and Barega lead ??????? 5,000m in Shanghai

say no to drugs wrote:

Coevett wrote:

East Africans who live and train in a country with literally NO TESTING

Sounds exactly like the UK in 1981...

Coevett wrote:

Guess who came last, 20 seconds behind the next runner, in last year's Brussels Diamond League 5000?

Cyrus Rutto.

Rekrunner was right: doping does slow you down.

UK testing has always been among the best in the world as far as I know. Was there no testing in the UK in 1981 but stringent random out of season tests everywhere else? Is that what you're burping?

Wasn't Rutto caught via his ABP profile? In that case, wouldn't coming off the doping catch him out?

Excited for the race. I think we’ll see 12:49, maybe 12:46. But will Barega or Kejelcha cross the line first?

Slight aside, but the dozen or so 60-year-olds who have committed to derailing every running-related thread on this website are just the worst. What a bizarre thing for a man to do, when you really think about it...

22twos wrote:

Excited for the race. I think we’ll see 12:49, maybe 12:46. But will Barega or Kejelcha cross the line first?

Slight aside, but the dozen or so 60-year-olds who have committed to derailing every running-related thread on this website are just the worst. What a bizarre thing for a man to do, when you really think about it...

Not in my 60s ..close but, no. Your thoughts...are like saying animated movies are to be held up as real life... Speaking for these 60yo .., drugs have bastardized reality and sickens the true spirit of athletics/track. Today’s racing is a ‘magic trick ‘ ..you know it’s not real but you can’t see the deception that draws you in. Some day you’ll realize that you’ve been watching a hoax ..not real human endeavors. Peace

Coevett wrote:

Yes, Americans should care about faceless East Africans who live and train in a country with literally NO TESTING and where EPO is on sale over the counter in every pharmacy

Still incapable of refraining from lying, I see.

Sad Wiggins wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

After 2 hours this thread has picked up more replies than the threads on Walsmley, Stinson, Cain, etc.

Not really true, and anyway, look at the replies.

Anyway, this race figures to be a good one. It’ll probably be paced through 3k in a typical 7:45-7:50 and then slow a bit in the 4th k, unless Cheptegei takes it on from 2k out. I think Kejelcha will get the lead at 4k and try to hold it to the tape while turning the screws a la Farah, and until Barega shows he’s in the kind of form we saw in Brussels last year I’m inclined to think he’ll succeed.

1. Kejelcha 12:53

2. Cheptegei 12:54

3. Gebrhiwet 12:56

4. Barega 12:57

5. Chelimo 13:00

Also a few really young Ethiopian guys with 13:0x PRs who could break through in class here.

I don't think it will be that fast - I don't get my hopes up on DL 5000m races producing fast times these days, as there is usually maybe 1 fast one a year. Here are my shot-in-the-dark picks:

Kejelcha 13:03

Gebrhiwet

Chelimo

Barega

Cheptegei

Mead at whatever place in 13:1x

Definitely won't be sub 13. Kejelcha in 13:02, followed by cheptegei and then Barega. Mead at 13:2x, unfortunately.

spade detector wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Yes, Americans should care about faceless East Africans who live and train in a country with literally NO TESTING and where EPO is on sale over the counter in every pharmacy

Still incapable of refraining from lying, I see.

hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

big dave22 wrote:

spade detector wrote:

Still incapable of refraining from lying, I see.

hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/04/doping-hotspot-ethiopia-drug-testing-epo

Stating that there is "literally NO TESTING" in all of East Africa is unquestionably a lie. Are you as incapable at telling the truth as Coevett?

spade detector wrote:

big dave22 wrote:

hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/04/doping-hotspot-ethiopia-drug-testing-epo

Stating that there is "literally NO TESTING" in all of East Africa is unquestionably a lie. Are you as incapable at telling the truth as Coevett?

If you're talking about Ethiopia, saying 'literally no testing' is much closer to the truth than 'strong anti-doping protocols'.

trollism wrote:

spade detector wrote:

Stating that there is "literally NO TESTING" in all of East Africa is unquestionably a lie. Are you as incapable at telling the truth as Coevett?

If you're talking about Ethiopia, saying 'literally no testing' is much closer to the truth than 'strong anti-doping protocols'.

+1

Indeed.

And yes, I was talking about Ethiopia, as the compulsive liar Spade Detector knows full well.

trollism wrote:

spade detector wrote:

Stating that there is "literally NO TESTING" in all of East Africa is unquestionably a lie. Are you as incapable at telling the truth as Coevett?

If you're talking about Ethiopia, saying 'literally no testing' is much closer to the truth than 'strong anti-doping protocols'.

He said all of East Africa, and he said literally zero testing. It's an obvious lie to most, but maybe not to you.

Coevett wrote:

trollism wrote:

If you're talking about Ethiopia, saying 'literally no testing' is much closer to the truth than 'strong anti-doping protocols'.

+1

Indeed.

And yes, I was talking about Ethiopia, as the compulsive liar Spade Detector knows full well.

https://deadspin.com/wada-discovers-world-record-factory-ethiopia-does-almos-1769983123

Even the article you posted, when backtracking to a single country, shows that you are a liar. Are you not smart enough or not honest enough to stop lying? Or is it both?

Lets talk about the 5000m instead of doping please. What I am I saying this is LRC.

Anyways not gonna predict times cause it all comes down to pacing but:

1. Yomif

2. Barega

3. Chelimo

4. Cheptegei

Help me understand how this 5000 is part of a Diamond league meet? There was recently a big stink on here about how it is now illegal for the Diamond league to conduct a race over 3000m. Is the meet director risking jail time for holding this race?

UltraDude wrote:

Help me understand how this 5000 is part of a Diamond league meet? There was recently a big stink on here about how it is now illegal for the Diamond league to conduct a race over 3000m. Is the meet director risking jail time for holding this race?

No. You should read more carefully.

UltraDude wrote:

Help me understand how this 5000 is part of a Diamond league meet? There was recently a big stink on here about how it is now illegal for the Diamond league to conduct a race over 3000m. Is the meet director risking jail time for holding this race?

The new rules don't come into effect until the 2020 Diamond League iirc.

george oscar bluth wrote:

I don't think it will be that fast - I don't get my hopes up on DL 5000m races producing fast times these days, as there is usually maybe 1 fast one a year. Here are my shot-in-the-dark picks:

Kejelcha 13:03

Gebrhiwet

Chelimo

Barega

Cheptegei

Mead at whatever place in 13:1x

Agreed with all that

Sad Wiggins wrote:

1. Kejelcha 12:53

2. Cheptegei 12:54

3. Gebrhiwet 12:56

4. Barega 12:57

5. Chelimo 13:00

Also a few really young Ethiopian guys with 13:0x PRs who could break through in class here.

no way would the top 4 be separated by 4 seconds in a 12:53 race.

Kajelcha vs Barega is the race to see. Maybe Gebrhiwet shows up fit but we haven't seen anything from him this year.

This will likely be a 13:0x race.

Is Mead definitely racing? Seems like a far way to go to DNF or run 13:4x.