None of the articles that I've read really do this story pure justice.
Some act like he ordered a 74 inch and got delivered an 86 inch and now has been arrested. From watching a tv news report, it sounds like he got two tvs when he only ordered 1 and refused to return 1.
I bet you can help him arrange a class-action lawsuit.
Seriously, though, this guy deserves any punishment he gets.
Your title is misleading. It's not "they deliver it ... and now he's been arrested." It's "they deliver it, he makes no effort to fix the situation and even goes so far as to put it on his wall ... and now he's arrested."
It's straightforward theft. Nothing to see here.
The shipping company who was on the hook for losing the TV asked this guy repeatedly to give it back. He refused. When the shipping company contacted the police, this guy tried to play dumb even though he had mounted the extra TV on his wall. He stole the TV. Period.
He should have put the 74 incher in the 84 incher’s box. Taped it up all nice like and they’d never find out until the next owner opens it up. By then they wouldn’t be able to trace it back to him and they’d just write it off as a manufacturer error. Oh well. Sucks for him.
"Unsolicited goods are those goods which are sent to someone without being asked those goods to be sent ... Consumers can retain unsolicited goods or dispose them as they wish. They are under no obligation to keep them safe or to return them.."
what about wrote:
"Unsolicited goods are those goods which are sent to someone without being asked those goods to be sent ... Consumers can retain unsolicited goods or dispose them as they wish. They are under no obligation to keep them safe or to return them.."
So if you receive your neighbor's package by accident you can keep it? Good to know.
I know what to do wrote:
Seriously, though, this guy deserves any punishment he gets.
Your title is misleading. It's not "they deliver it ... and now he's been arrested." It's "they deliver it, he makes no effort to fix the situation and even goes so far as to put it on his wall ... and now he's arrested."
It's straightforward theft. Nothing to see here.
If I get a little extra in my meal deal going through drive through. I'm not going give the extra fry or burger back that they gave to me on accident. Amazon f-cked up and should just move on.
wtf, this is ridiculous
How is this a criminal matter, why were the police even involved?
This is 100% a civil matter, if the company wants the tv back, proceed civilly against him.
I feel like this story is missing some important details.
free_the_thigh wrote:
wtf, this is ridiculous
How is this a criminal matter, why were the police even involved?
This is 100% a civil matter, if the company wants the tv back, proceed civilly against him.
I feel like this story is missing some important details.
I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding what cops are. Police departments in the US are essentially private security firms that work for corporations. Once you understand this, their activities will make more sense.
okay fine then... wrote:
So if you receive your neighbor's package by accident you can keep it? Good to know.
Maybe, maybe not. Possibly mis-delivery doesn't count because you were never the intended recipient. But the law is clear - if someone or a company hands something over to you, knowingly intending it for you, it's yours.
Precious Roy wrote:
The shipping company who was on the hook for losing the TV asked this guy repeatedly to give it back. He refused. When the shipping company contacted the police, this guy tried to play dumb even though he had mounted the extra TV on his wall. He stole the TV. Period.
No, he didn't steal the tv. It was wrongfully given to him and he refused to set up a time and date to have it picked up. Of course he's still wrong, but calling it outright stealing is wrong, it was initially given to him.
I believe the theory of unsolicited goods applies to goods that were sent intentionally. This was an error. See what happens when the bank accidently deposits $1k in your account.
Precious Roy wrote:
The shipping company who was on the hook for losing the TV asked this guy repeatedly to give it back. He refused. When the shipping company contacted the police, this guy tried to play dumb even though he had mounted the extra TV on his wall. He stole the TV. Period.
Ok, internet lawyer.
If he signed for it, and falsely claimed he had purchased it, then there's a case to be made. Otherwise...
The Guru Matt James wrote:
I believe the theory of unsolicited goods applies to goods that were sent intentionally. This was an error. See what happens when the bank accidently deposits $1k in your account.
In that case the bank can simply electronically reverse things. A better example is an ATM giving you extra cash - which in this case at least, the customers were able to keep:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/28/atm-accidentally-gives-100-bills-but-customers-get-keep-cash/2135805002/The Guru Matt James wrote:
I believe the theory of unsolicited goods applies to goods that were sent intentionally. This was an error. See what happens when the bank accidently deposits $1k in your account.
ya, im not sure he should get to keep the tv, but i feel like that is distracting from the real issue, whether or not the cops should have gotten involved, which they absolutely shouldnt have
belial wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
The shipping company who was on the hook for losing the TV asked this guy repeatedly to give it back. He refused. When the shipping company contacted the police, this guy tried to play dumb even though he had mounted the extra TV on his wall. He stole the TV. Period.
Ok, internet lawyer.
If he signed for it, and falsely claimed he had purchased it, then there's a case to be made. Otherwise...
Pretty sure Precious Roy is an actual, in real life lawyer.
I don't agree with his opinion on this but I think he is credentialed to have one.
Precious Roy wrote:
The shipping company who was on the hook for losing the TV asked this guy repeatedly to give it back. He refused. When the shipping company contacted the police, this guy tried to play dumb even though he had mounted the extra TV on his wall. He stole the TV. Period.
this ^ 100%
ianal wrote:
belial wrote:
Ok, internet lawyer.
If he signed for it, and falsely claimed he had purchased it, then there's a case to be made. Otherwise...
Pretty sure Precious Roy is an actual, in real life lawyer.
I don't agree with his opinion on this but I think he is credentialed to have one.
No, he's not an attorney in real life.
That's so racist!
Oh wait. Nevermind.