List of Europeans under the 27:28.00 Standard for 2020 Olympics by Country

Bad Wigins wrote:

Is this thread update? wrote:

What the IAAF says is "from now on qualification will be through a ranking system unless you are really really good and likely to medal, then we want you in there even if you don't make it through the ranking system."

= "we intend to keep cluttering up the race with also-rans who get in the way and confuse the spectators." Stupid.

If your country hasn't got someone with a chance to win, it should stay home devastated and use it as motivation to GET someone, like the US got Rupp. If you're rewarded for mediocrity, you'll only stay that way.

Gladwell may be this site’s most prolific, and consistent, troll, but he makes good points.

Bad Wigins wrote:

List of Europeans who have ran a faster 10,000 than Galen Rupp:

List of anyone who has ran a faster 10,000 than Rupp since 2011:

Why does everyone write, “ who has ran...” ?!

You guys are grammatical idiots. Can’t you just hear how wrong it is as you type it?!

Norway

Sondre Nordstad Moen

Finnj wrote:

Norway

Sondre Nordstad Moen

Are Nakkim age 54 has the 10000 Record for Norway at 27:32 set in 1990.

The list is of Europeans who have run 27:28.00 or faster, Wanders or Moen or others MIGHT do it, but they have not done it yet.

Canada-3

1. Ahmed, age 28

2. Levins age 29

3. Bairu age 36

Mexico has 2

1. Barrios age 55

2. Quintanella age 50

Australia-1

1. Ben St Lawrence age 37

Asia, Qatar and Bahrain have 3 each all former Africans.

Most of the Europeans that have done it, did it a looooooong ago,its a tough standard, another question is why are most of the national records 30 or more years ago? It is like Countries that were good just stopped.

Bad Wigins wrote:

List of Europeans who have ran a faster 10,000 than Galen Rupp:

Galen Rupp /is/ a European so I'm not sure what point this is making

fandyman wrote:

I don't understand why people have so much confusion for this system. Is not really that different from the old NCAA Automatic and Provisional system. If you run these times you are automatically qualified if not you have to go on descending order list based on ranked performances to qualify. The rankings reward multiple performances and placing at big meets but the concept really isn't that different.

Sounds a bit like the PGA tour’s fedex rankings, which no one (fans and players alike) can understand

Japan national record is 27:29.69 by Kota Murayama. This is some BS, it should be in the 27:45-28:00 minute range.

Using the American model, the old system was first three at the trials make the Olympic team, assuming they've met the time standard. In the vast majority of events *(including virtually all that the casual audience cared about) that time requirement was a formality. In some cases you had confusion over whether people were allowed to "chase" the standard after the trials or had to have met the standard coming in to the trials or at the trials itself. There were odd situations where someone who placed as low as 5th in the trials could end up at the Olympics because of a faster time or people declining invitations for other events. Overwhelmingly, though, the first three across the line got their little American flags and NBC took delight in announcing that they had just "punched their ticket" to the Olympics. Now, that nice, neat model of egalitarianism and equal opportunity will be turned on its ear, as people have to decipher an arcane ranking system (whose promoter isn't able to articulate with confidence or clarity) to determine who will actually be eligible to run in the Olympics. It is not an improvement and it goes against the spirit of Olympic ideals.

fandyman wrote:

I don't understand why people have so much confusion for this system. Is not really that different from the old NCAA Automatic and Provisional system. If you run these times you are automatically qualified if not you have to go on descending order list based on ranked performances to qualify. The rankings reward multiple performances and placing at big meets but the concept really isn't that different.

My woman in Tokyo wrote:

Japan national record is 27:29.69 by Kota Murayama. This is some BS, it should be in the 27:45-28:00 minute range.

Do You mean it should be 26:45-27:00?

I would expect it to be a lot faster for the 10000 Japanese National Record than 27:29

douglas burke wrote:

My woman in Tokyo wrote:

Japan national record is 27:29.69 by Kota Murayama. This is some BS, it should be in the 27:45-28:00 minute range.

Do You mean it should be 26:45-27:00?

I would expect it to be a lot faster for the 10000 Japanese National Record than 27:29

No, he means the standard should be 27:45 - 28:00, like it has been. But yea, the Japanese NR should be faster than 27:29. Hard to believe actually.

My woman in Tokyo wrote:

Japan national record is 27:29.69 by Kota Murayama. This is some BS, it should be in the 27:45-28:00 minute range.

Not really. Murayama and Shitara et al. are getting lapped, sometimes twice, at the major championships. They really don't belong in those fields. Put up or get out.

Sure, that will mean these races will be all-East African affairs, but that's pretty much the way things are now.

The Prefontaine-fan-boy types (Viren was a doper!) will probably give up watching (if they haven't already) because they can't mentally transport themselves into the body of a Kenyan or Ethiopian, but that's just the way it goes.

It sure won't stop me from getting excited about these races. I much prefer to watch athletes because they're the best rather than because they look like me.

The worst part of letsrun wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

List of Europeans who have ran a faster 10,000 than Galen Rupp:

List of anyone who has ran a faster 10,000 than Rupp since 2011:

Why does everyone write, “ who has ran...” ?!

You guys are grammatical idiots. Can’t you just hear how wrong it is as you type it?!

No kidding. I even heard Ritzenhein use "has ran" during TV commentary. Everyone knows Americans are the worst at languages, but you'd think they could at least master their native language. And to think runners used to be the smart athletes.

Oh Please wrote:

No, he means the standard should be 27:45 - 28:00, like it has been. But yea, the Japanese NR should be faster than 27:29. Hard to believe actually.

Given his 5,000 NR (13:08) and marathon NR (2:05:5x), I think Osako could bring that down significantly if he put his mind to it (I'd guess to around 27:15).

Who would qualify for Olympics right now (results of 2017 and 2018 and worldrankings). Eth and Ken can have more then 3 athletes faster then the standard.

Men:

1 26:49.51 Mo FARAH GBR 1243

2 26:49.94 Joshua CHEPTEGEI UGA 1242

3 26:50.60 Paul Kipngetich TANUI KEN 1241

4 26:52.12 Bedan KAROKI KEN 1239

5 26:56.11 Jemal Yimer MEKONNEN ETH 1232

6 26:57.77 Geoffrey KAMWOROR KEN 1230

7 26:59.19 Abadi HADIS ETH 1227

8 27:02.35 Mohammed AHMED CAN 1222

9 27:07.55 Shadrack KIPCHIRCHIR USA 1214

10 27:08.94 Andamlak BELIHU ETH 1212

11 27:09.92 Aron KIFLE ERI 1210

12 27:11.08 Abraham CHEROBEN BRN 1208

13 27:20.18 Leonard KORIR USA 1194

14 27:21.09 Timothy TOROITICH UGA 1193

15 27:22.33 Moses Martin KURONG UGA 1191

1 3 Morhad AMDOUNI FRA 1215 10,000m

2 7 Bashir ABDI BEL 1198 10,000m [5000m]

3 10 Stewart MCSWEYN AUS 1192 10,000m

4 11 Yemaneberhan CRIPPA ITA 1188 10,000m

5 13 Adel MECHAAL ESP 1174 10,000m

6 17 Richard RINGER GER 1171 10,000m [5000m]

7 19 Hassan CHANI BRN 1167 10,000m

8 22 Julien WANDERS SUI 1162 10,000m

9 22 Andy VERNON GBR 1162 10,000m

10 25 Soufiane BOUCHIKHI BEL 1160 10,000m

11 28 Shadrack KIPCHIRCHIR USA 1154 10,000m [5000m]

12 38 Shuho DAIROKUNO JPN 1143 10,000m

Women:

1 30:16.32 Almaz AYANA ETH 1233

2 30:40.87 Gelete BURKA ETH 1210

3 30:41.68 Senbere TEFERI ETH 1209

4 30:41.85 Pauline KAMULU KEN 1209

5 31:03.50 Agnes Jebet TIROP KEN 1190

6 31:07.56 Veronica NYARUAI KEN 1186

7 31:13.06 Meraf BAHTA SWE 1181

8 31:16.48 Minami YAMANOUCHI JPN 1178

9 31:17.20 Amy CRAGG USA 1177

10 31:18.20 Yasemin CAN TUR 1176

11 31:19.00 Desi Jisa MOKONIN BRN 1176

12 31:19.86 Molly HUDDLE USA 1175

13 31:20.24 Susan KRUMINS NED 1174

14 31:20.45 Emily INFELD USA 1174

1 1 Lonah Chemtai SALPETER ISR 1236

2 2 Darya MASLOVA KGZ 1221

3 5 Stella CHESANG UGA 1198

4 6 Yuka HORI JPN 1194

5 7 Mizuki MATSUDA JPN 1189

6 8 Mercyline CHELANGAT UGA 1188

7 13 Celia SULLOHERN AUS 1179

8 14 Ancuţa BOBOCEL ROU 1170

9 19 Madeline HILLS AUS 1159

10 22 Kaori MORITA JPN 1157

11 24 Loganathan SURIYA IND 1155

12 29 Alice WRIGHT GBR 1153

13 29 Alina REH GER 1153

i will put this here wrote:

Americans who have gone sub 27:28.00.

1 26:44.36 Galen RUPP 08 MAY 1986 USA USA 1 Eugene, OR (USA) 30 MAY 2014 1251

2 26:59.60 Chris SOLINSKY 05 DEC 1984 USA USA 1f1 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 01 MAY 2010 1227

3 27:07.55 Shadrack KIPCHIRCHIR 22 FEB 1989 USA USA 9 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017 1214

4 27:13.98 Mebrahtom KEFLEZIGHI 05 MAY 1975 USA USA 4 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 04 MAY 2001 1204

5 27:16.99 Abdi ABDIRAHMAN 02 DEC 1978 USA USA 7 Eugene, OR (USA) 08 JUN 2008 1199

6 27:20.18 Leonard KORIR 10 DEC 1986 USA USA 13 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017 1194

7 27:20.56 Mark NENOW 16 NOV 1957 USA USA 1 Bruxelles (BEL) 05 SEP 1986 1193

8 27:22.28 Dathan RITZENHEIN 30 DEC 1982 USA USA 6 Berlin (GER) 17 AUG 2009 1191

9 27:24.67 Bobby CURTIS 28 NOV 1984 USA USA 2f1 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 01 MAY 2011 1187

10 27:25.61 Alberto SALAZAR 07 AUG 1958 USA USA 2 Oslo (NOR) 26 JUN 1982 1185

And due to the website we are on, number 98 28:06.58 Weldon JOHNSON 24 JUL 1973 USA USA 4 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 19 JUN 2003 1122

https://www.iaaf.org/records/all-time-toplists/middle-long/10000-metres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=countries&region=usa&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2019-03-11

Didn't Sam Chelanga run 27:08? Why he aint in the list?

...yes, and?

Taro wrote:

Sure, that will mean these races will be all-East African affairs, but that's pretty much the way things are now.

The Prefontaine-fan-boy types (Viren was a doper!) will probably give up watching (if they haven't already) because they can't mentally transport themselves into the body of a Kenyan or Ethiopian, but that's just the way it goes.

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All east African affairs? Unfortunately for your sad, pathetic racist soul that's not how it has actually transpired recently at all has it?

2016 olympics:

Rank Name Nationality Time Notes

1st, gold medalist(s) Mo Farah Great Britain 27:05.17

2nd, silver medalist(s) Paul Tanui Kenya 27:05.64 SB

3rd, bronze medalist(s) Tamirat Tola Ethiopia 27:06.26

4 Yigrem Demelash Ethiopia 27:06.27

5 Galen Rupp United States 27:08.92 SB

6 Joshua Kiprui Cheptegei Uganda 27:10.06 PB

7 Bedan Karoki Muchiri Kenya 27:22.93

8 Zersenay Tadese Eritrea 27:23.86

9 Nguse Tesfaldet Eritrea 27:30.79 SB

10 Abraham Cheroben Bahrain 27:31.86 PB

2012 olympics:

Rank Name Nationality Result Notes

1st, gold medalist(s) Mo Farah Great Britain 27:30.42

2nd, silver medalist(s) Galen Rupp United States 27:30.90

3rd, bronze medalist(s) Tariku Bekele Ethiopia 27:31.43

4 Kenenisa Bekele Ethiopia 27:32.44

5 Bedan Karoki Muchiri Kenya 27:32.94

6 Zersenay Tadese Eritrea 27:33.51

7 Teklemariam Medhin Eritrea 27:34.76

8 Gebregziabher Gebremariam Ethiopia 27:36.34

9 Polat Kemboi Arikan Turkey 27:38.81 PB

10 Moses Ndiema Kipsiro Uganda 27:39.22

Hey, don't forget around here... it's not about nationality

there's some weird 'great hope' mentality

Wow, mind blown, none of us had any idea!