Great Britain -4
1. Farah-Age 35
2. Brown-48
3. Martin-60
4. Thompson-37
Portugal-3
1. Pinto-52
2. Mamede-67
3. Lopes-72
Germany-3
1. Baumann-54
2. Schildhaur-59
3. Kunze-59
Spain-3
1. Roncero-49
2. Rios-45
3. De La Ossa-42
Belgium-3
1. Mourhit-49
2. Rousseau-56
3. Hagelsteens-62
Italy-2
1. Antibo-57
2. Panetta-56
France-1
1. Martins-55
Netherlands-1
1. Maase-47
Turkey-1
1. Kaya-24
Most of these Countries it has been a while since a runner has run 27:28.00 for 10000
The IAAF has totally lost the plot and need to be replaced
Last time I checked Switzerland was still in Europe.
Who has ran 10000m on track under 27:28 from Switzerland?
List of Europeans who have ran a faster 10,000 than Galen Rupp:
List of anyone who has ran a faster 10,000 than Rupp since 2011:
We cannot compare these standards with the previous ones. What the IAAF says is "from now on qualification will be through a ranking system unless you are really really good and likely to medal, then we want you in there even if you don't make it through the ranking system."
They are not saying "from now on you need to run these times to qualify. " They are saying "you need to get a good ranking to qualify."
douglas burke wrote:
Great Britain -4
1. Farah-Age 35
2. Brown-48
3. Martin-60
4. Thompson-37
Portugal-3
1. Pinto-52
2. Mamede-67
3. Lopes-72
Germany-3
1. Baumann-54
2. Schildhaur-59
3. Kunze-59
Spain-3
1. Roncero-49
2. Rios-45
3. De La Ossa-42
Belgium-3
1. Mourhit-49
2. Rousseau-56
3. Hagelsteens-62
Italy-2
1. Antibo-57
2. Panetta-56
France-1
1. Martins-55
Netherlands-1
1. Maase-47
Turkey-1
1. Kaya-24
Most of these Countries it has been a while since a runner has run 27:28.00 for 10000
Thanks for this very impressive statistics! Kaya and Farah (the two youngest on the list) for sure have East African origins...
Is this thread update? wrote:
We cannot compare these standards with the previous ones. What the IAAF says is "from now on qualification will be through a ranking system unless you are really really good and likely to medal, then we want you in there even if you don't make it through the ranking system."
They are not saying "from now on you need to run these times to qualify. " They are saying "you need to get a good ranking to qualify."
Exactly. People fail to understand that the super high standards are a crutch or a compromise. They wanted the ranking system to be the only way to qualify. Due to delays in the ranking system (it was supposed to be the qualifying method for Doha already!) and people (not unjustifiedly) hating the ranking system they came up with that compromise for Tokyo.
douglas burke wrote:
Great Britain -4
1. Farah-Age 35
2. Brown-48
3. Martin-60
4. Thompson-37
Portugal-3
1. Pinto-52
2. Mamede-67
3. Lopes-72
Germany-3
1. Baumann-54
2. Schildhaur-59
3. Kunze-59
Spain-3
1. Roncero-49
2. Rios-45
3. De La Ossa-42
Belgium-3
1. Mourhit-49
2. Rousseau-56
3. Hagelsteens-62
Italy-2
1. Antibo-57
2. Panetta-56
France-1
1. Martins-55
Netherlands-1
1. Maase-47
Turkey-1
1. Kaya-24
Most of these Countries it has been a while since a runner has run 27:28.00 for 10000
ummmm......ever heard of Alexis Papas?
douglas burke wrote:
Great Britain -4
1. Farah-Age 35
2. Brown-48
3. Martin-60
4. Thompson-37
Portugal-3
1. Pinto-52
2. Mamede-67
3. Lopes-72
Germany-3
1. Baumann-54
2. Schildhaur-59
3. Kunze-59
Spain-3
1. Roncero-49
2. Rios-45
3. De La Ossa-42
Belgium-3
1. Mourhit-49
2. Rousseau-56
3. Hagelsteens-62
Italy-2
1. Antibo-57
2. Panetta-56
France-1
1. Martins-55
Netherlands-1
1. Maase-47
Turkey-1
1. Kaya-24
Most of these Countries it has been a while since a runner has run 27:28.00 for 10000
Lol. Good list and good point.
The 10,000 should be scrapped at the championship level and be replaced with a 10k team cross country race, anyways.
I'd bet on at least 15 of those being dopers.
Americans who have gone sub 27:28.00.
1 26:44.36 Galen RUPP 08 MAY 1986 USA USA 1 Eugene, OR (USA) 30 MAY 2014 1251
2 26:59.60 Chris SOLINSKY 05 DEC 1984 USA USA 1f1 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 01 MAY 2010 1227
3 27:07.55 Shadrack KIPCHIRCHIR 22 FEB 1989 USA USA 9 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017 1214
4 27:13.98 Mebrahtom KEFLEZIGHI 05 MAY 1975 USA USA 4 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 04 MAY 2001 1204
5 27:16.99 Abdi ABDIRAHMAN 02 DEC 1978 USA USA 7 Eugene, OR (USA) 08 JUN 2008 1199
6 27:20.18 Leonard KORIR 10 DEC 1986 USA USA 13 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017 1194
7 27:20.56 Mark NENOW 16 NOV 1957 USA USA 1 Bruxelles (BEL) 05 SEP 1986 1193
8 27:22.28 Dathan RITZENHEIN 30 DEC 1982 USA USA 6 Berlin (GER) 17 AUG 2009 1191
9 27:24.67 Bobby CURTIS 28 NOV 1984 USA USA 2f1 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 01 MAY 2011 1187
10 27:25.61 Alberto SALAZAR 07 AUG 1958 USA USA 2 Oslo (NOR) 26 JUN 1982 1185
And due to the website we are on, number 98 28:06.58 Weldon JOHNSON 24 JUL 1973 USA USA 4 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 19 JUN 2003 1122
i will put this here wrote:
Americans who have gone sub 27:28.00.
1 26:44.36 Galen RUPP 08 MAY 1986 USA USA 1 Eugene, OR (USA) 30 MAY 2014 1251
2 26:59.60 Chris SOLINSKY 05 DEC 1984 USA USA 1f1 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 01 MAY 2010 1227
3 27:07.55 Shadrack KIPCHIRCHIR 22 FEB 1989 USA USA 9 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017 1214
4 27:13.98 Mebrahtom KEFLEZIGHI 05 MAY 1975 USA USA 4 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 04 MAY 2001 1204
5 27:16.99 Abdi ABDIRAHMAN 02 DEC 1978 USA USA 7 Eugene, OR (USA) 08 JUN 2008 1199
6 27:20.18 Leonard KORIR 10 DEC 1986 USA USA 13 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017 1194
7 27:20.56 Mark NENOW 16 NOV 1957 USA USA 1 Bruxelles (BEL) 05 SEP 1986 1193
8 27:22.28 Dathan RITZENHEIN 30 DEC 1982 USA USA 6 Berlin (GER) 17 AUG 2009 1191
9 27:24.67 Bobby CURTIS 28 NOV 1984 USA USA 2f1 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 01 MAY 2011 1187
10 27:25.61 Alberto SALAZAR 07 AUG 1958 USA USA 2 Oslo (NOR) 26 JUN 1982 1185
And due to the website we are on, number 98 28:06.58 Weldon JOHNSON 24 JUL 1973 USA USA 4 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 19 JUN 2003 1122
https://www.iaaf.org/records/all-time-toplists/middle-long/10000-metres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=countries®ion=usa&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2019-03-11
...and what about "HobbyJoggers are ruining everything" HardLoper? Must be #99? or #98.5...at least?
I don't understand why people have so much confusion for this system. Is not really that different from the old NCAA Automatic and Provisional system. If you run these times you are automatically qualified if not you have to go on descending order list based on ranked performances to qualify. The rankings reward multiple performances and placing at big meets but the concept really isn't that different.
fandyman wrote:
I don't understand why people have so much confusion for this system. Is not really that different from the old NCAA Automatic and Provisional system. If you run these times you are automatically qualified if not you have to go on descending order list based on ranked performances to qualify. The rankings reward multiple performances and placing at big meets but the concept really isn't that different.
Are there going to be 15-20 European men ranked high enough to qualify for an invitation? Probably not.
HOT OFF THE PRESS - IAAF
IAAF just set the 10k standard to 26.00
and the 5000 to 12.30.
that takes care of that.
HOT OFF THE PRESS - IAAF
marathon is to be completed in a crowd, tv friendly 90 minutes.
they've hired a consultant to figure out how far the new marathon distance will be, or alternately the can pull the plug 90 minutes in. i guess they'll take an internal vote, and dole out their democratic ruling for the sport.
long live the IAAF and total democracy.
Is this thread update? wrote:
What the IAAF says is "from now on qualification will be through a ranking system unless you are really really good and likely to medal, then we want you in there even if you don't make it through the ranking system."
= "we intend to keep cluttering up the race with also-rans who get in the way and confuse the spectators." Stupid.
If your country hasn't got someone with a chance to win, it should stay home devastated and use it as motivation to GET someone, like the US got Rupp. If you're rewarded for mediocrity, you'll only stay that way.
HOT OFF THE PRESS - IAAF democratic braintrust.
Retired runners that have met the standard will be allowed into the final, recognizing that need to respect the sport and fill out the field.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Is this thread update? wrote:
What the IAAF says is "from now on qualification will be through a ranking system unless you are really really good and likely to medal, then we want you in there even if you don't make it through the ranking system."
= "we intend to keep cluttering up the race with also-rans who get in the way and confuse the spectators." Stupid.
If your country hasn't got someone with a chance to win, it should stay home devastated and use it as motivation to GET someone, like the US got Rupp. If you're rewarded for mediocrity, you'll only stay that way.
agreed.
i bash IAAF no holds barred., if they do something right, it will be by accident.