Tinman Big Workouts

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5 years ago 12/28/2018 4:17pm EST

So, we have these:

Big Workout Examples

Elite Runners:

10 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 8 x 1 mile or 4 x 2 miles at HMP (half-marathon pace), jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. Run 2 miles to cool down, including short but quick striders for a touch of “speed.”

Semi-Elite Runners:

10 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 7 x 1 mile or 3 x 2 miles plus 1 mile at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. Run 2 miles to cool down, including short, quick striders for a touch of “speed.”

Club Runners:

8 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 6 x 1 mile or 3 x 2 miles at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. 2 miles EZ to cool down, including short, quick striders for “speed.”

Local Runners:

7 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 5 x 1 mile or 2 x 2 mile plus 1 mile at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. 2 miles EZ to cool down, including short, quick striders for “speed.”

Novice Runners:

6 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 4 x 1 mile or 2 x 2 miles at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. Run 2 miles to cool down, including short, quick striders for “speed.”

Are the Big Workouts all at HMP? Or some progressions and LSD’s too? Anyone got any more examples of Tinman Big Workouts?

5 years ago 12/29/2018 2:42am EST

re: Tinman is better than me

Tinman is better than me wrote:
So, we have these:
Big Workout Examples
Elite Runners:
10 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 8 x 1 mile or 4 x 2 miles at HMP (half-marathon pace), jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. Run 2 miles to cool down, including short but quick striders for a touch of “speed.”
Semi-Elite Runners:
10 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 7 x 1 mile or 3 x 2 miles plus 1 mile at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. Run 2 miles to cool down, including short, quick striders for a touch of “speed.”
Club Runners:
8 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 6 x 1 mile or 3 x 2 miles at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. 2 miles EZ to cool down, including short, quick striders for “speed.”
Local Runners:
7 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 5 x 1 mile or 2 x 2 mile plus 1 mile at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. 2 miles EZ to cool down, including short, quick striders for “speed.”
Novice Runners:
6 miles EZ, including easy striders, then 4 x 1 mile or 2 x 2 miles at HMP, jogging 1 minute per mile for recovery. Run 2 miles to cool down, including short, quick striders for “speed.”
Are the Big Workouts all at HMP? Or some progressions and LSD’s too? Anyone got any more examples of Tinman Big Workouts?

5 years ago 12/29/2018 6:56am EST

re: Tinman is better than me

Club runners workout is exactly what I did when I trained with Daniels as an average runner 15years ago. So don’t think this is new at all. It’s was an important part of the Daniels program

5 years ago 12/29/2018 7:03am EST

re: Tinman is better than me

I think if you look at Tinman's current philosophy it has changed a great deal since then. I think he would prefer you didn't do two big workouts and instead two smaller workouts and a long run.

5 years ago 12/29/2018 10:12am EST

re: tboy

tboy wrote:
I think if you look at Tinman's current philosophy it has changed a great deal since then. I think he would prefer you didn't do two big workouts and instead two smaller workouts and a long run.

Just like most elite marathoners do (with occasional long MP workouts).

5 years ago 12/29/2018 10:21am EST

re: Tinman is better than me

What's with all the Timan threads lately?

5 years ago 12/29/2018 10:25am EST

re: rare

rare wrote:
What's with all the Timan threads lately?

He’s the GOAT

5 years ago 12/29/2018 10:31am EST

re: rare

rare wrote:
What's with all the Timan threads lately?

You oppose the idea of not being Rare?

5 years ago 12/29/2018 11:04am EST

re: rare

rare wrote:
What's with all the Timan threads lately?

Yeah! I bet Tinman himself wrote the threads. He is not that good coach.

5 years ago 12/29/2018 11:13am EST

re: Anti-pov

Anti-pov wrote:
rare wrote:
What's with all the Timan threads lately?
Yeah! I bet Tinman himself wrote the threads. He is not that good coach.

Tinnman > Canova

5 years ago 12/29/2018 11:23am EST

re: Tinnnman

Tinnnman wrote:
Anti-pov wrote:
Yeah! I bet Tinman himself wrote the threads. He is not that good coach.
Tinnman > Canova

Haha! Not a chance! If Canova is the space , then Tinman is just a fart in the space.

5 years ago 12/29/2018 11:28am EST

re: tboy

tboy wrote:
I think if you look at Tinman's current philosophy it has changed a great deal since then. I think he would prefer you didn't do two big workouts and instead two smaller workouts and a long run.

No, this is his philosophy that is more marathon specific. It's different than his philosophy on training for shorter distances.

5 years ago 12/29/2018 12:08pm EST

re: SprintTriathlon

SprintTriathlon wrote:
rare wrote:
What's with all the Timan threads lately?
You oppose the idea of not being Rare?

+1, that made me chuckle

5 years ago 12/29/2018 12:24pm EST

re: CoachB

CoachB wrote:
tboy wrote:
I think if you look at Tinman's current philosophy it has changed a great deal since then. I think he would prefer you didn't do two big workouts and instead two smaller workouts and a long run.
No, this is his philosophy that is more marathon specific. It's different than his philosophy on training for shorter distances.

His philosophy on marathon specific training...what is his philosophical approach to marathon training?

Cheers.

5 years ago 12/29/2018 12:24pm EST

re: CoachB

CoachB wrote:
tboy wrote:
I think if you look at Tinman's current philosophy it has changed a great deal since then. I think he would prefer you didn't do two big workouts and instead two smaller workouts and a long run.
No, this is his philosophy that is more marathon specific. It's different than his philosophy on training for shorter distances.

I don't know, it doesn't seem super familiar to me. Tinman is coaching me for a marathon and I don't think I have any interval training at HMP.

I do have some short tempos around that pace that are always followed by hillwork or faster reps.

5 years ago 12/29/2018 12:55pm EST

re: Anti-pov

Anti-pov wrote:
Tinnnman wrote:
Tinnman > Canova
Haha! Not a chance! If Canova is the space , then Tinman is just a fart in the space.

Coach JS >>>> Tinman > Canova

5 years ago 12/29/2018 1:38pm EST

re: Mega Coach JS

Mega Coach JS wrote:
Anti-pov wrote:
Haha! Not a chance! If Canova is the space , then Tinman is just a fart in the space.
Coach JS >>>> Tinman > Canova

;-)

5 years ago 12/29/2018 2:05pm EST

re: DietBacon

DietBacon wrote:
CoachB wrote:
No, this is his philosophy that is more marathon specific. It's different than his philosophy on training for shorter distances.
I don't know, it doesn't seem super familiar to me. Tinman is coaching me for a marathon and I don't think I have any interval training at HMP.
I do have some short tempos around that pace that are always followed by hillwork or faster reps.

With long runs? As per the post a few posts above...

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