Hshsb wrote:
I don’t think there are any clean WRs. With doping being so rampant, I have a hard time believing that when comparing outliers, the world’s best clean athlete is better than the world’s best drugged athlete.
The clean athlete would have to be even more or a statistical anomaly than they are already are.
In any case, I think it’s funny that whenever these threads start, the LR faithful pull up the all time lists, scroll to the first white person, and declare that the clean WR.
People here can scream racism all they like, but the fact is that the middle and long distance world records were mainly held by people of European descent before 1990, and almost overnight they were put out of sight by Africans - just around the time that EPO became available, the first drug to really improve endurance.
Now you can argue as others have (at times) that EPO simply 'levelled the doping playing field', but you can't deny facts. It is suspicious in itself that the most corrupt continent on Earth suddenly started running faster than the rest of the world ever had or possibly can, just when a cheap endurance drug hits the market, and we know subsequently was available in every East African pharmacy like aspirin.
I know for sure that if a country like China had suddenly dominated middle and long distance running instead of Africa (and of course they did dominate women's track for a little while, setting crazy WRs), with numerous bust and documented evidence of the ease of availability of peds and corrupt testers, the same people shouting racism at me would be absolutely non-hesitant about accusing Chinese athletes of universal doping.
As far as Nick Willis is concerned, he is a very good candidate, perhaps the best in any event, of likely having ran the fastest time ever clean. Not because he's white, but because he doesn't come from a corrupt East African culture where doping is rampant, and because in his case, his anti-doping stance does come across as very genuine. And if like many people here (not me of course), want to believe that the Brits of the 80's were suspicious, Nick Willis actually ran faster than them (just!).