Looking to Transfer into XC Program

Slow slower wrote:

You are too slow for any decent D1 program. You actually slow for any D1 program. How could you refer to any D1 program as poor?

Relative to other D1 programs, not to me. Come on, think a bit more than that.

You can’t expect to come on this site with those times and talk about poor D1 programs and then not expect to blasted. Why would you want to go to a better program where you won’t be able to compete?

Slow slower wrote:

You can’t expect to come on this site with those times and talk about poor D1 programs and then not expect to blasted. Why would you want to go to a better program where you won’t be able to compete?

Setting my goals high, I know where my times are at.

I recommend one of the Wisconsin state schools like Uw Lacrosse.

If you are attending a D1 school, but not competing for them (and only considering walking on the team), then there should be no issue with eligibility issues if/when you transfer. If you transfer to a lower division school (D1 to D2/3), there should be no issues either. I agree with the other posters that your race times solidly in the the D3/NAIA area. You could easily have a bad experience at your current D1 school or another D1 school where even if you could walk on the team that you have limited opportunities to compete, similar runners to train with, or bad coaching for development.

Most people have a preference on public/private schools (based on what they can afford, in-state tuition, student loans) and location (near friends or family or a desirable location or where they might work after graduation).

Transferxc wrote:

PRs, most from high school xc

400: 54.2(4x4 split)

800: 2:01

1600: 4:40(sick at the time of this race, never got to race again)

5k Road: 16:39

5k Track: 16:20(August, 2017, this was after about 10 weeks at 50-60 miles, only strength workouts, not much speed work)

6’0” 140lbs

Thank you I would appreciate any and all recommendations and opinions!

Here is the problem... you qualify and make excuses with your pr’s.

relay split? Doesn’t count

road pr? Doesn’t count

1600 pr? Sick

5k track? From over a year ago and of course on limited training

Come on. At this point you wouldn’t be top 10 on a top 25 D3 team. If you work hard and improve dramatically, you might have a chance to contribute on a decent D3 team in a couple years.

Wisco whisky wrote:

I recommend one of the Wisconsin state schools like Uw Lacrosse.

I think he'd have a tough time making the team unless they don't have limited roster spots now.

I went to St. Joe's in Philly. The coach there always accepts walk-ons and, in fact, his favorite guys are the walk-ons that come in with average times, work hard, and end up being far better than their high school PRs would suggest. That being said, St. Joe's is very expensive and you can get the quality of education there anywhere else. If you can find a more serious program that accepts walk-ons, but is more tailored to the academic tract you're looking for, go there. I think you'll benefit from any program in which the coach takes things seriously.

"Give me a team of 5 4:40 milers and I'll win a national championship."-Al Carius. Maybe give NCC a chance? You might be surprised.

Lmao you aren't at University of Toledo are you?

Transferxc wrote:

Slow slower wrote:

You can’t expect to come on this site with those times and talk about poor D1 programs and then not expect to blasted. Why would you want to go to a better program where you won’t be able to compete?

Setting my goals high, I know where my times are at.

How high exactly are you setting your goals? What do you think you can run?

Don't pick a school based on its XC program. Just being honest - you are not good enough to do that (not an insult, I was not good enough to do that either). Pick it based on the overall school where the XC may be a very minor factor

No way he could make that team based on his times

NotNCC wrote:

No way he could make that team based on his times

I don't think Carius cuts. Yeah the top 10-20 are amazing but there are some very slow guys on the back of the roster.

As others have said, your times put you at the D3 level. I would be shocked if the "poor" program at your current school would even take you. Saying you want to run for a "decent" team and then providing a list of awful times with a bunch of qualifications and excuses is not a good look. Have you raced on the track at all since August 2017? You've had over a year to improve on a performance that you say only took 10 weeks of training and no speed work, and yet all you could muster is a 16:40 on the road?

Look for schools that match you academically first and then see if they have a program that is competitive. Your times just isn't fast enough to get a coach excited even at Div III program unless they're piss poor. Sub 15 would get them excited.

Coach Carina is making a point about D3. His top guys ran 4:13, 4:18, 4:20, 4:23, 4:24, 4:25, 4:30 in HS. 4:40 guys are sitting home when NCC travels.

Parkside in Kensha Wi. We could always use dudes, competitive conference, great CS school. Lotta dudes dropping times QUICK

The University of Wisconsin Platteville, plenty of Engineering programs and a great running program! Come on over!