Womens 400m
Expectation: Epic showdown between Miller and Naser leads to the first sub 49 since 2009
Reality: The race will be won in the same old 49 mid to high that has been the norm for the last decade.
Mens 800m:
Expectation: A great pace will be set with and epic showdown over the last 100m as we see a 1:42 and a new world lead
Reality: Another slow ass boring race with a 1:43 high - 1:45 winning time and some idiotic tactics from some kenyans
Womens steeplechase:
Expectation: Epic showdown between Couburn, Chepkoech, and Chespol leads all 3 under 9:00 and possible significatly under and close to the WR
Reality: Somebody will screw up, with a hurdles set to the wrong height, somebody missing the water jump, bad pacing, ect... Same old 9:00 winning time, maybe someone breaks 9:00, probably not
Womens 100m:
Expectation: Someone blows us away with a 10.7 or better
Reality: Same old diamond league 10.8-10.9 race
Mens 1500m
Expectation: Epic showdown between Managoi and Cherioyut sees at least a 3:27 winning time, similar to Kiprop and Kiplagats showdowns back in 2013 and 2014
Reality: Lackluster pace leads to either a sit and kick race won in 3:32ish or leaves Cherioyut by himself going a mediocore time. At least Jakob might blow us away, though he is probably tired from U20s.
Mens 110m Hurdles
Expectation: Shubenkov countinues his great season breaking 12.9, Possible even a perfect race leading to a WR.
Reality: He probably false starts leading to another classic diamond league 13.1 race. Yay
Mens 800m heat 2:
Expectation: The drug cheat Wilson will rise up as a simple for all female Athletes, Dethroning Semenya and her accomplices Niyonsaba and Wambui once and for all.
Reality: Semenya easily walks away with this again, Wilsom falls just short of Niyonsaba, and maybe even gets beaten by Wambui. Same as always.
Mens 200m
Expectation: Lyles proves he is the next bolt running under 19.6
Reality: Not to much to complain about, Lyles will destroy these scrubs, but its the diamond league, so prepare for disappointment.
Mens steeplechase:
Expectation: Finally, Kipruto, Jager, El Bakkali, and new to the party Kigen will chase a fast time as Kipruto fulfills his promise to go for the WR. The pacemakers do their job and we see all 4 break 8:00 and possibly one gets the WR
Reality: After a fast first kilometer, the pace laughably slows down yet again, leaving us with another 8:03-8:10 race as Jager gets outkicked again, and we see Kiprutos talent wasted. Neither of them will ever break 8:00.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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That pretty much sums it up.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Lol I actually read all of that. Pretty good stuff.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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I'll cut away to round three of the w SP to the Polish woman intentionally foul on a throw of under 20 meters and miss all that action.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Kenyans FTW wrote:
but its the diamond league, so prepare for disappointment.
Honestly, this is so painfully true I am sad to be a track fan in 2018
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Spot on. The diamond league is a joke. Athletes are getting lazy and slowly killing the sport. The new wave of talent in the 400m hurdles show that this isn't some impossible barrier imposed by PEDs, athletes have stopped working hard.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Men’s 800m Heat 2 ?
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Honestly, Shubenkov might take down merrits world record. Shame though, russian dopers.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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I think the Women's Steeple and the Men's 200m (errr...just Lyles) will be good and the rest will be "meh" times.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Truer words have never been spoken
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Expectations is that one day I would get a chance to watch a diamond league meet live!
Reality that my son is watching the TDF and has tickets to Monaco!
The races will go to those who run the fastest or jump the farthest.
Sport in it's purest form.
Oh let's hope Jager breaks 8 minutes.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Your expectations are WRs or near WRs.
Expect some fast times. Expect some not so fast times.
Enjoy the meet.
You’re welcome.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Macdaddy
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TBH the diamond league has had a few exceptional performances:
Dibabas WR in 2015
Kiprop 1500m in Monaco 2015
Paris 2012 5000m
Merrits World record in 2012
Kirputos near WR in 2011
Koechs insane steeple in 2012
Sambas 400m hurdles this year
Blakes 100 and 200 in 2012 and 2011
Ect...
But nearly all of these are a 3 years back or more. It hard to deny how lack luster track has become, especially 2017, which I consider to be one of tracks worst years...
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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Just like how there were Pokémon gyms, the Diamond League is like the Elite 4.
The prize pool is sufficient, but not enough. For the Diamond League, it’s about winning and not necessarily setting world records.
If every athlete trained 110% they would eventually get an injury and retire earlier.
The World Cup is over, but the Olympics is coming. Anways, for now, we get to see athletes slowly develop.
By measuring their performance at Diamond League meets, we’ll see their progress when they reach the olympics.
I wanted to see if I could earn money and participate in DL as a dark horse, however... you need to pay for flights, hotels, food, and flights back home.
If you come in 8th, you’ll get like $500? You’re losing.
The fact that these athletes are consistent and everyone expects them to win their distance means that they are performing well.
This might not be entertainment and kind of boring, but at least Track and Field is alive.
Once I get a full time job my dreams will die... ?
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Kenyans FTW
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That steeple chase prediction is painful, but so true. How many races have we seen go out at a ridicoulous pace other 1k like a 2:37 or something stupid only to drop of to a 2:54 the kilometer. Athletes need more incentives then mediocore prize money to go fast. In fact, the prize of the diamondleague is a joke compared to the golden league jackpot. Something big like that needs to be offered.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Dead dreamer
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Dead dreamer wrote:
The prize pool is sufficient, but not enough. For the Diamond League, it’s about winning and not necessarily setting world records.
Yes, and this is why out sport is dying. Obviously sprimts are about going as fast as you can, but distance athlete's of the modern generation have proven lazy. Monetary incentive needs to be offered for fast times. Maybe bonuses for top performances in history like 10k for a top 50 performance or something...
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to I totally run a sub 14 5k
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Most shoe contracts have performance bonuses.
I totally run a sub 14 5k wrote:
Monetary incentive needs to be offered for fast times. Maybe bonuses for top performances in history like 10k for a top 50 performance or something...
I would love to see real data showing that faster times = more fans. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more complicated.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to I totally run a sub 14 5k
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I think this scheme will unravel over the long haul. As people run faster, the "top 50" will get faster, making it harder to run.
I totally run a sub 14 5k wrote:
Maybe bonuses for top performances in history like 10k for a top 50 performance or something...
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Self Defeating Goals
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Top 50 times would be
Men
100m 9.81 10.78
200m 19.76 21.87
400m 43.92 49.11
800m 1:42.65 1:55.78
1500m 3:29.14 3:56.82
3000m 7:29.09 8:26.64
5000m 12:52.33 14:29.82
10000m 26:50.97 30:26.70
110mH 12.97 100mH 12.40
400mH 47.53 53.07
3000mSt 8:00.67 9:08.33
Dosen't seem to unrealistic to expect this from world class athletes on the circuit. Of course a couple of these are above what current atheltes are doing, but most are very achievable.
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- RE: Monaco Diamond League - Expectations vs Reality - in reply to Lyles 18.99
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Lyles 18.99 wrote:
Top 50 times would be
Men
100m 9.81 10.78
200m 19.76 21.87
400m 43.92 49.11
800m 1:42.65 1:55.78
1500m 3:29.14 3:56.82
3000m 7:29.09 8:26.64
5000m 12:52.33 14:29.82
10000m 26:50.97 30:26.70
110mH 12.97 100mH 12.40
400mH 47.53 53.07
3000mSt 8:00.67 9:08.33
Dosen't seem to unrealistic to expect this from world class athletes on the circuit. Of course a couple of these are above what current atheltes are doing, but most are very achievable.
Those 100m, 800m, and 5000m are way out of reach for the men. Those distances have been really bad this year. While Lyles is promising, the 100m is making me miss when
gatlin went 9.7 in every single race.
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