Why high mileage?

Why do I feel that there're lots of people lying here about their times....pathetic.

Why high mileage? wrote:

I often see here advises to people who want to run faster a 10k or a 5k to increase their mileage.

Okay, but your title says high mileage, not increased mileage.

Hmmm.... wrote:

Why do I feel that there're lots of people lying here about their times....pathetic.

Nah, I believe him. He’s just a has-been. By the tone of his initial post, I assumed he was currently a 2:28 guy. Alas, it seems I was mistaken.

As for me - I post under my real name and my PRs are easy enough to confirm. As is my claim that I have progressed tremendously since starting “high mileage” in 2012. That was my initial point. I love LetsRun and discovering this site and, resultantly, learning about real training completely changed my running.

A lot of people here need to do some research on mitochondria.

They do drop mileage....it's called periodisation. High mileage is essential, but it's just part of the picture. Shows how misinformed all of you are.

Because the 90s happened.

GBohannon wrote:

Hmmm.... wrote:

Why do I feel that there're lots of people lying here about their times....pathetic.

Nah, I believe him. He’s just a has-been. By the tone of his initial post, I assumed he was currently a 2:28 guy. Alas, it seems I was mistaken.

As for me - I post under my real name and my PRs are easy enough to confirm. As is my claim that I have progressed tremendously since starting “high mileage” in 2012. That was my initial point. I love LetsRun and discovering this site and, resultantly, learning about real training completely changed my running.

Everyone will be a has-been someday, Griffin. I'm glad running still has a lot of meaning and value for you. Seems like it's going very well based on your Strava. I wish I could have kept going because racing was such a rush, but I just don't enjoy the grind of training and had to bail.

best of luck chasing that 2:24-26

-phil

I love the term “garbage miles”. This clearly comes from people that don’t love running just for the sake of it. So dumb. Have fun being fast and hating running. Lol.

AerobicMonster wrote:

SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:

I think that was a very good thought! ( and I assure you I am not "Food for thought" ). I think, or we can say I`m convinced

, that the high mileage brigade 120-150 mpw had been faster on less mileage with their `exact` best individual paces . That we can never know because they didn`t try it out.

They do drop mileage....it's called periodisation. High mileage is essential, but it's just part of the picture. Shows how misinformed all of you are.

I think most of us knows that, but the thing is they don`t have to run the tops of +120 mpw to reach at least same results. It`s really a waste of effort and time! And that message is good to hear for all runners that don`t have the time for all those miles in the week. It`s good to hear you can reach your optimal capacity on just 5-6 sessions per week ! :)

heres the real reason wrote:

A lot of people here need to do some research on mitochondria.

Test us ! What do you have to say about mitochondria that most of us don`t already knows?

Has-been wasn’t an insult. I consider you an internet friend. Thanks.

sadly it feels like i've become that person that runs 100 mpw at an 8:30 average. before covid my easy runs were getting down toward 7/7:30 pace. i'm nearing 40 but don't think my fitness should be declining this rapidly?

Also, if you're still following this, any good advice on the "real training" you found on LetsRun that allowed you to become a 2:25 guy? Higher mileage has taken me from 4 hours to 2:50 but really struggling to hit 6min pace and don't understand how lydiard's guys could do that pace for a 10hr/100mpw avg!

Hfcbh wrote:

I see many people here that say they run 90 or even 100 miles per week. Most likely you have to maintain a job as well since you aren’t elite runners. So my question is do you do two sessions a day as people who also work and maybe even have a wife and kids? Or if you do one session a day how do manage to squeeze in 100 weekly miles? That 14 miles a day in average.

It would be more useful to know how long (in time) they are running. 8 hours might mean 100km, it might mean 130km. Faster people can do more km in the same time. If you are slow, probably more relevant to focus on total hours than total distance.

bulwinkle wrote:

Hfcbh wrote:

I see many people here that say they run 90 or even 100 miles per week. Most likely you have to maintain a job as well since you aren’t elite runners. So my question is do you do two sessions a day as people who also work and maybe even have a wife and kids? Or if you do one session a day how do manage to squeeze in 100 weekly miles? That 14 miles a day in average.

It would be more useful to know how long (in time) they are running. 8 hours might mean 100km, it might mean 130km. Faster people can do more km in the same time. If you are slow, probably more relevant to focus on total hours than total distance.

This is a good point. An elite can cover 100 miles in 10 hours a week. A hobby jogger would only cover 70-80 miles in the same 10 hours. So aim for time duration instead of mileage. When you get faster then you naturally run more mileage. Don’t put the cart before the horse. I recall Lydiard prescribing about 9 hours per week. Which for his elites put them in the 90s. However for hobby joggers it’s more like 60-70s.

Welcome to American running mentality through the 80s and 90s... which is why American distant runners were a disaster. Long slow miles, combined with workouts, work... period. No shortcuts.