Where was Coebro's life threatened? I think he threatened me, but I find him a rather humorous figure, worthy of his own sitcom.
Where was Coebro's life threatened? I think he threatened me, but I find him a rather humorous figure, worthy of his own sitcom.
MurderDub wrote:
Where was Coebro's life threatened? I think he threatened me, but I find him a rather humorous figure, worthy of his own sitcom.
This thread has been hilarious. It would be funny if this alleged threats of violence went to court. Imagine it that, I would buy a pay per view to watch that court case.
rojo wrote:
Coevett wrote:
At a minimum it shows Africans don't run for the love of the sport but simply for the money.
I get what you are saying but don't agree with it, but first a backstory.
Weldon had a US educated Kenyan living with him in Flagstaff. The guy simply didn't understand the concept of running for fun at age 45. Like he thought it was crazy.
If you've lived in Africa, you'd understand why. And don't tell me they are a lot different than people over here. No. Was there a lot of masters running during the George Washington era? No there was not. There was no professional sports in 1776.
It takes a decent amount of wealth to be into sports for run, whether it's attenidng a pro event or running for a couple hours yourself. In the US back in the day, most were worried about surviving, day to day living. It's similar today in Africa. Would you rather run for 90 minutes? Or do something to save people's lives? I'm serious. Even if you are rich. Let's say you are a lawyer making $200 an hour. Think about how far that $200 would go if you donated to a guy down the street in Africa.
How does what you posted disagree with what you quoted?
NativeSon wrote:
Malaria and TB wrote:
I can name several Kenyan runners who were dead before they could have excelled as Masters.
Florence Griffith Joyne and Antonio Pettigrew didn't die of either malaria or TB.
I can name more Kenyans.
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Look, Coe has been corrupted since youth. He only knows one way: to cheat.
I see that Coevetts attempt to use the masters as evidence of EPO use by Kenyans fell flat on its face. It was easily debunked as were all his other crazy conspiracy theories.
And now that that the masters theory has fallen flat on its face, he has gone back to accusing Keino of doping supposedly because he ran with gallstones.
hehehe what a joke !
What is so suspicious about winning a tactical race in 3:34?
Ignore Coevett's racist rants hear from the horses' mouths themselves about how it went down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyIw4neVik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yyB-9NOn3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_dHmrsM31s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D93QaR8ydUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCL7_rEjCzI
Actual race
Coevett reminds me of the Winston Churchill quote:
A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.
John Velzian really seems to be very important for Kenyan distance running success:
https://mg.co.za/article/1995-03-10-why-the-kenyans-keep-on-winning
Nyandika Maiyoro and Chepkwony, the first Kenyans running internationally in Europe (in 1954) , almost directly could compete with the best brits.
said88 wrote:
John Velzian really seems to be very important for Kenyan distance running success:
https://mg.co.za/article/1995-03-10-why-the-kenyans-keep-on-winningNyandika Maiyoro and Chepkwony, the first Kenyans running internationally in Europe (in 1954) , almost directly could compete with the best brits.
Ermm yeah, compete for a few laps until they drop out.
And that story was first told by Velzian himself.
I like how he list he gives of the reasons why Kenyans were dominating (In 1995 - when the EPO era was in full swing). Every one of those reasons has become a cliche often trotted out here by the likes of RekRunner (Kenyans run every day to school etc). He created those cliches himself.
Yes, John Velzian seems to be very important for Kenyan distance running success.
In 2000, around the peak of the EPO era, the president of the Kenyan Olympic committe was Kip Keino, and the coach of the Kenyan team was (again) our old friend John Velzian. Seems they must have kissed and made up between Mexico and Sydney.
Though they have now won 27 gold medals in the Olympics and World Championships over every distance from 800 m to the marathon, Kenya's male athletes won just one event at the World titles in Spain last year, and lost the 5,000-m title for the first time since 1987. Is this decline because they spend too much of the year running on the demanding European circuit? "Agents want their athletes running every week," says Kipchogo Keino, president of Kenya's Olympic committee, and winner of the 1,500 m at the 1968 Mexico Olympics. "But if you run every week you will exhaust yourself, mentally and physically." In April, Keino met members of the Kenya Amateur Athletics Association and agents representing high-profile Kenyan runners to thrash out a program in the lead-up to Sydney. He argued that athletes who make the Olympic team should remain in Kenya and train together to "build a unified team full of spirit." Runners were loath to miss out on prize money. A compromise allows selected athletes to run in Europe's Golden League events; the rest will stay home. Kenya's coach John Velzian, who is also the International Amateur Athletic Federation's development director for English-speaking Africa, says it's a matter of balance: "The trick is keeping the runners on the boil without boiling them dry."
Already in 1960, Nyandika Maiyoro has run 13:52.6 (while finishing 6th at the Olympics), a time only bettered for the first time 6 years previously by Chris Chataway (and much faster than Emil Zatopek has ever run). Obviously some sort of talent.
lkjlkj wrote:
Look, Coe has been corrupted since youth. He only knows one way: to cheat.
https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/2051483/corruption-hit-iaaf-adopts-sebastian-coes-reforms
I have a feeling that Coevett has one of these pictures autographed in his living room.
rojo wrote:
No. Was there a lot of masters running during the George Washington era? No there was not. There was no professional sports in 1776.
There was probably more back alley, non disclosed pro sports than what we know about. Boxing, wrestling, shooting, throwing, even foot races (hence the mystique of the mile).
Nips and tatties wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Well I think when certain posters are threatening to kill other posters (and their hypothetical children) simply for exposing the obvious and monumental doping in Kenyan athletics, I think he has some obligation too, as well as making sure those ips are being recorded.
Please! Record the IPs!
I have never threatened you and you have threatened me twice.
Record the IPS!
I am not the one who has threatened you, I haven't threatened your children (which you don't have, as you said), and I am just sick of your anti-African posts.
Record the IPs. And do whatever you want with them. You have threatened me twice and it's all recorded.
Hey El Keniano, remember when Zane Robertson exposed the Kenyan doping ring? Remember he received death threats? Since then Sumgong, Jebet and Kiprop have all been busted.
Coevett wrote:
Yes I know Lagat is changing that. Somebody who recorded crazy EPO era times and actually failed a test. But I was looking at the M45 world rankings for last year.
Anthony Whiteman ran 11 seconds faster than anybody else aged 45-49 in the world, and 20 seconds faster in both the 1500 and Mile.
In the 800, 1500, 5000, and 10000 I can only see one African (a Moroccan at 35th or something in the 800m).
Yet this is the age group that would have been in their prime in the EPO era, when the senior ranking lists and Olympic and world finals were totally dominated by Africans.
O.K. so clearly Masters running isn't big in Morocco or Kenya, but you'd expect a few names in the lists surely. At a minimum it shows Africans don't run for the love of the sport but simply for the money.
https://www.mastersrankings.com/rankings/
I’m sure some people know who Coevett is; I feel he and others like it don’t deserve to be anonymous because of the nonsense they spew. Can someone disclose who this is?..
Hopelessly crazy wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Yes I know Lagat is changing that. Somebody who recorded crazy EPO era times and actually failed a test. But I was looking at the M45 world rankings for last year.
Anthony Whiteman ran 11 seconds faster than anybody else aged 45-49 in the world, and 20 seconds faster in both the 1500 and Mile.
In the 800, 1500, 5000, and 10000 I can only see one African (a Moroccan at 35th or something in the 800m).
Yet this is the age group that would have been in their prime in the EPO era, when the senior ranking lists and Olympic and world finals were totally dominated by Africans.
O.K. so clearly Masters running isn't big in Morocco or Kenya, but you'd expect a few names in the lists surely. At a minimum it shows Africans don't run for the love of the sport but simply for the money.
https://www.mastersrankings.com/rankings/I’m sure some people know who Coevett is; I feel he and others like it don’t deserve to be anonymous because of the nonsense they spew. Can someone disclose who this is?..
Can one of the Rojo brothers please give me this person's ip please? You have my e-mail address. I want to contact his local police department.
Rash-putin wrote:
What about your child, Coevett?
As I said I don't have a child, but a person who would threaten to harm a person's child simply for disagreeing with them on a forum regarding the extent of Kenyan doping, does need to be looked at by the police.
Coevett wrote:
Yes I know Lagat is changing that. Somebody who recorded crazy EPO era times and actually failed a test. But I was looking at the M45 world rankings for last year.
This is inaccurate - do your homework.