Why are there so few Kenyans and Moroccans in Masters ranking lists?

because there is no money in Masters athletics.

cheers.

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How many more platforms to spew your hatred and ignorance towards Kenyans (and now Moroccans) do you still need?

The answer to your question here is obvious and it has nothing to do with what you are saying.

I would bet my house that I could go to Kenya, spend a year there and give you a handful of sub 15:00 5,000m runners aged 45-49.

But then you would say they doped. Even if we lived and trained in your backyard.

Not many former pros either doing masters. Like Coe/Ovett.

Because at the end of their career, athletes actually need to work to make a living.

Les wrote:

Not many former pros either doing masters. Like Coe/Ovett.

Well I hear Coe is a little busy at the moment. It would be fun to see what times he could run now with just a few months serious training, given that he never stopped running (to keep in shape) and looks not much heavier than he did when he was racing.

I don't expect guys at the very top who achieved Olympic golds and world records to continue into Masters running, but what about the many Moroccans who couldn't even get in their national team because sub 13:00 wasn't good enough back then? Wouldn't one or two of them want to compete in Masters? And if they were running close to 13:00 at 25, they should be able to run sub 15:00 with ease at 45.

I guess Masters running rankings is made up of the odd pro like Whiteman who started athletics a bit late and so is less burnt out and also has the motivation to 'prove' something, a lot of good runners who were never elite but continued on for their love of running and competing and had a bit of luck avoiding injuries and generally aging well, and runners who started very late, or who only ran briefly as youngsters, such as Ed Whitlock.

Moroccans and North Africans started to dominate Spanish, French, Belgian, Dutch distance running in the 90s/00s. Yet there are many French, Spanish etc from that generation in the M45 ranking lists and yet they all have very French, Spanish names.

Odd.

Masters doping probably isn't as big a thing in Africa as it is in other parts of the world.

I can name several Kenyan runners who were dead before they could have excelled as Masters.

Malaria and TB wrote:

I can name several Kenyan runners who were dead before they could have excelled as Masters.

And probably dozens more who would be dead if they continued with the EPO into their forties.

Nips and tatties wrote:

How many more platforms to spew your hatred and ignorance towards Kenyans (and now Moroccans) do you still need?

The answer to your question here is obvious and it has nothing to do with what you are saying.

I would bet my house that I could go to Kenya, spend a year there and give you a handful of sub 15:00 5,000m runners aged 45-49.

But then you would say they doped. Even if we lived and trained in your backyard.

"sub 15:00 5000 runners age 45-49?" I'd sure as heck be suspicious of that. ?

When you look at these lists they are dominated by people from the developed countries. Standard of living and leisure time is a key component.

Not Buying It wrote:

Nips and tatties wrote:

How many more platforms to spew your hatred and ignorance towards Kenyans (and now Moroccans) do you still need?

The answer to your question here is obvious and it has nothing to do with what you are saying.

I would bet my house that I could go to Kenya, spend a year there and give you a handful of sub 15:00 5,000m runners aged 45-49.

But then you would say they doped. Even if we lived and trained in your backyard.

"sub 15:00 5000 runners age 45-49?" I'd sure as heck be suspicious of that. ?

Kenneth Mungara is two months away from his 45th birthday (according to LRC experts he is actually 82 years old), and he has just won the Gold Coast Marathon in 2:09:49

Bernard Lagat is 43 (81?) and ran 28:42 a couple of days ago.

These two men alone could probably run sub 14:00, let alone 15:00

How is Coe busy? Another divorce and cleaning up Paula's pending doping reveal and keeping his blood transfusions out of the spotlight? He has a job like everyone else, actually lives in a bit of luxury and is tremendously overweight last I saw him in Zurich.

The reason is the same why Coe and Ovett aren't Masters - because they don't care. They are done with their competitive days on the track. And outside of the US/UK, it is a waste of time. We all know Whiteman is a tool that couldn't hold down a job, so he runs. Have you ever seen a Kenyan after his career is over - they balloon in weight because they stop cold turkey doing any exercise and revel in their relative wealth.

Something wrong with you. If there's one place where doping has a huge effect is in masters men. Those T levels start dropping like a stone when you hit 40.

I absolutely love how you pick out Tony Whiteman running 1:48 as being a sign that he and more widely the British aren't doping ahaha

Coevett wrote:

O.K. so clearly Masters running isn't big in Morocco or Kenya, but you'd expect a few names in the lists surely. At a minimum it shows Africans don't run for the love of the sport but simply for the money.

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Honestly your prejudice is a mental illness. Just read this and please never post again

Because I know you love to ignore facts I'll pull the tidbits from that article for everyone to see how wrong you are. Africans are humans, just like Europeans. Some like running, some get sick of running after doing it all their career (heard of retirement????) and some just don't like that lifestyle that much.

Ronnie O'Sullivan has stated many times he's not that fond of snooker but he's good at it.

Although he has called it quits, Gebrselassie still runs twice a day and regularly finds himself in the gym. Last week, he says, he ran a total of about 90 miles.

“Running is just addictive, I’m telling you,” Gebrselassie said. “I do my morning session and in the afternoon, I get in and I have to go to the gym. I sweat enough in the morning. My body still tells me ‘What are you doing here? Go there and sweat again.’”

“Even coming Sunday, I wish I was running here [in New York City] as a normal jogger,” Gebrselassie said

Just F off

Nips and tatties wrote:

Not Buying It wrote:

"sub 15:00 5000 runners age 45-49?" I'd sure as heck be suspicious of that. ?

Kenneth Mungara is two months away from his 45th birthday (according to LRC experts he is actually 82 years old), and he has just won the Gold Coast Marathon in 2:09:49

Bernard Lagat is 43 (81?) and ran 28:42 a couple of days ago.

These two men alone could probably run sub 14:00, let alone 15:00

Give it up El Keniano, nobody is fooled.

ex-runner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

O.K. so clearly Masters running isn't big in Morocco or Kenya, but you'd expect a few names in the lists surely. At a minimum it shows Africans don't run for the love of the sport but simply for the money.

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Honestly your prejudice is a mental illness. Just read this and please never post again

https://www.si.com/more-sports/2015/10/30/haile-gebrselassie-retirement-new-york-city-marathon-mo-farah

Mate, he has to keep running with all the gunk he has put in his blood, it'll curdle if he stopped.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Nips and tatties wrote:

Kenneth Mungara is two months away from his 45th birthday (according to LRC experts he is actually 82 years old), and he has just won the Gold Coast Marathon in 2:09:49

Bernard Lagat is 43 (81?) and ran 28:42 a couple of days ago.

These two men alone could probably run sub 14:00, let alone 15:00

Give it up El Keniano, nobody is fooled.

Is that who it is? I thought so. ?