Jim Walmsley to run a road marathon

Jim is definitely a 2:11 talent if he focuses on the roads. Everyone puts down Ultras, it takes the same talent as winning the Olympics. Times are slower because you are running up a mountain trail and not some bouncy track. Could 2;11 make the Kenyan team? No. Could 2;11 make the Japanese team? No. Could 2;11 make the USA team? Definitely!!!!! Non-paced race, Yuki has exposed Galen's Achilles heel and Jim WILL take it out. I'm not saying he will win, but yeah it could happen.

the profit wrote:

Jim is definitely a 2:11 talent if he focuses on the roads. Everyone puts down Ultras, it takes the same talent as winning the Olympics. Times are slower because you are running up a mountain trail and not some bouncy track. Could 2;11 make the Kenyan team? No. Could 2;11 make the Japanese team? No. Could 2;11 make the USA team? Definitely!!!!! Non-paced race, Yuki has exposed Galen's Achilles heel and Jim WILL take it out. I'm not saying he will win, but yeah it could happen.

It does not take close to the same talent as winning the Olympics. The number of good runners that run Ultras is waaaaaaay lower than the number of good runners that race marathons. Also ignoring the fact that Jim won't run close to 2:11, 2:11 won't make the US team. You ultra guys are something else when it comes to talking about your sport.

Prophet > profit.

No way Walmsley touches Yuki in a marathon. 2:16 at best.

NERunner053 wrote:

people tend to forget the Walmsley did have some speed. I know he's not in 4:04 mile shape now but he definitely has talent.

4:04 is plenty fast enough to run well under 2:08 for a marathon.

He might have a million dollar body but he has a 50 cent head. Walmsley cannot break 2:15.

Kipsang `, wrote:

NERunner053 wrote:

people tend to forget the Walmsley did have some speed. I know he's not in 4:04 mile shape now but he definitely has talent.

4:04 is plenty fast enough to run well under 2:08 for a marathon.

Amen. Yuki showed what a front runner can do in a thon with with no pacers. A marathon in Atlanta any time of year can be a battle against adversity. It suits Walms to a T. Besides other than Rupp and Jim, who can run sub 2:11?

Kipsang `, wrote:

NERunner053 wrote:

people tend to forget the Walmsley did have some speed. I know he's not in 4:04 mile shape now but he definitely has talent.

4:04 is plenty fast enough to run well under 2:08 for a marathon.

4:04 is fast... for a high schooler. But in college and beyond, not so much. Even some of our walk-ons could run 4:04. I don't see him breaking 2:15 even on a really good day.

Everyone knows Walmsley can't break 2:15. He prolly won't even get an "A" qualifier for the Olympic Marathon trials.

The profit wrote:

Kipsang `, wrote:

4:04 is plenty fast enough to run well under 2:08 for a marathon.

Amen. Yuki showed what a front runner can do in a thon with with no pacers. A marathon in Atlanta any time of year can be a battle against adversity. It suits Walms to a T. Besides other than Rupp and Jim, who can run sub 2:11?

Yuki ran 2:08:15 and 2:08:14 marathons back to back with a 3:50.51 1500 PR. Neither Yuki nor Walmsley ever focused on the mile/1500. Ryan Hall never broke 4:00 either.

Nibbling wrote:

Prophet > profit.

No way Walmsley touches Yuki in a marathon. 2:16 at best.

I'm sure he wouldn't. Except that's not what he said, is it? He said he wants to race him at Lake Saroma 100k. Whatever you think about Jim's abilities at different distances, he's been almost untouchable at 100k. I would think those two going head to head at that distance would be something everyone would love to see.

I'm pretty certain Kawauchi would win 99/100 road marathons against Walmsley. One of them has run like 60 times sub 220 and a bunch of times sub 210, the other guy has zero and zero. If he really is capable of 211 marathon then he is throwing money away by not being the #2 US marathoner right now.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Except he HAS a finish at WS, so try again.

Yeah, after going off course at 93 miles and quitting, sitting down, and taking 4 hours to finish the final 7. That’s called choking. Tired of him talking a big game and not backing it up when it counts. Leave the marathoning to the real runners, not guys like him who dodged the competition all together by going straight to ultras. I have greater respect for guys like Sage and Max who have been humbled by first being road runners. Jim hasn’t earned jack s*** to talk the way he does.

choker jokers wrote:

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Except he HAS a finish at WS, so try again.

Yeah, after going off course at 93 miles and quitting, sitting down, and taking 4 hours to finish the final 7. That’s called choking. Tired of him talking a big game and not backing it up when it counts. Leave the marathoning to the real runners, not guys like him who dodged the competition all together by going straight to ultras. I have greater respect for guys like Sage and Max who have been humbled by first being road runners. Jim hasn’t earned jack s*** to talk the way he does.

HA.HA..serious question, do you keyboard gangstas wake up in the morning wondering who you can vent life's frustrations towards? Look I get it, life dealt you a deck of cards with lack thereof mediocre talent, but enough is enough. You know how to spot a beta male? Reading the above statements. Walmsley's pace at mile 65 is your 1500m pace too I presume? *drops mic*

choker jokers wrote:

Yeah, after going off course at 93 miles and quitting, sitting down, and taking 4 hours to finish the final 7. That’s called choking. Tired of him talking a big game and not backing it up when it counts. Leave the marathoning to the real runners, not guys like him who dodged the competition all together by going straight to ultras. I have greater respect for guys like Sage and Max who have been humbled by first being road runners. Jim hasn’t earned jack s*** to talk the way he does.

He already did race a World Champs 100km on the roads in 2015 and got destroyed. Finished 28th place in 7:05. Almost got chicked by Camille Heron who ran 7:08 in that race.

https://www.irunfar.com/2015/09/2015-iau-100k-world-championships-results.html

Jim was consitentely running 5:50-5:45 at JKF50 and 6:45 at Lake Sonoma before slashing over 30 and 45 minutes off those course times in 2016-2017.

I would be surprised if he showed up at a competitive race with legit drug testing now or something that might put one on the radar with USADA. It's easier to hide on the trails

Oh Please wrote:

I'm pretty certain Kawauchi would win 99/100 road marathons against Walmsley. One of them has run like 60 times sub 220 and a bunch of times sub 210, the other guy has zero and zero. If he really is capable of 211 marathon then he is throwing money away by not being the #2 US marathoner right now.

No googling, who is the #2 US men's marathoner right now?

Neither of them are making much but I'd bet Walsmley doing much better on the sponsorship front than him.

It is worthless to compare this year's marathon times at this point in the year, lets wait until November after the start of marathon season.

Mic drops are so 2012. Just like trail running.

well actually wrote:

It is worthless to compare this year's marathon times at this point in the year, lets wait until November after the start of marathon season.

There used to be a spring marathon circuit where runners would drop some good times, in the 2:11-2:14 range. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Buffalo, the old Eugene/Nike marathon, Grandmas etc. But now it's B and C level runners getting 5th to 9th place in 2:21 to 2:27 behind the 2:15-2:18 Ethiopians and Kenyans.