There really hasn't been anyone world class in both, and by that I mean Olympic finalist level. Sure, all the top 110 hurdlers are fast but not world class.
There really hasn't been anyone world class in both, and by that I mean Olympic finalist level. Sure, all the top 110 hurdlers are fast but not world class.
no wrote:
There really hasn't been anyone world class in both, and by that I mean Olympic finalist level. Sure, all the top 110 hurdlers are fast but not world class.
Harold Schmid
Gail Devers
no wrote:
There really hasn't been anyone world class in both, and by that I mean Olympic finalist level. Sure, all the top 110 hurdlers are fast but not world class.
What are you talking about? Posters have provided at least 2 examples. Both Devers and Dillard won Olympic or WC gold medals in both the 100 and 110H. Devers did it in the same WC.
Tony Dees, Yankee Clipper Track Club
Look it up.
The Boss was more than baseball.
Gary Glitter wrote:
Virtually every world class 400m Hurdler is also world class in the 400m. Virtually every world class 100m/110m Hurdler is also world class in the 100m or 200m.
There are dozens of examples on this thread. Kerron Clement, Angelo Taylor, Bershawn Jackson, Allen Johnson and Joey Woody have all been on World Champ Gold Medalist 4x400m Relays the past 20 years. Bennie Brazell was on LSU's collegiate record 4x400m Relay (and also anchored their NCAA champ 4x1000m Relay).
Especially in other countries where the talent pool isn't as deep, hurdlers make up a large portion of the relay pools.
Moses' 400 PR is 45.60. Was that world-class in 1977?
Wasn't aware of that, even more respect for the guy. I remember he got a lot of unfair s**t after losing in the anchor leg against Bahamas in 2012. After 15 years at the highest level people should cut him some slack, especially in a relay.
Sydney M has the 2nd fastest time in the world in the 400h and 3rd fastest in the 400.
I think Brianna Rollins would smoke at 100m.....So much lower body strength and control.
Hurdlurdlurdlur wrote:
Beyond the high school level, you rarely ever see someone double up in both the sprint and hurdle events, at least not individually. Why is this? Are both types of events just too demanding physically and/or technically to train optimally for both? Is it the schedule of events? I feel like guys like Grant Holloway would be successful if he ran the open 400, but he's never run it once in college. Thoughts?
Does Ashton Eaton count?
Evan Jäger ran 8 flat at the 3000m striped hurdles and 3:32 at the flat 1500 which is certainly world class.
A steeple barrier is a hurdle or they wouldn't talk about their hurdling technique.
3000m steeple might count as hurdles but 1500m certainly are not a sprint.
It's a sprint in Nordic skiing.
Bsjbsjs wrote:
Hurdlurdlurdlur wrote:
Beyond the high school level, you rarely ever see someone double up in both the sprint and hurdle events, at least not individually. Why is this? Are both types of events just too demanding physically and/or technically to train optimally for both? Is it the schedule of events? I feel like guys like Grant Holloway would be successful if he ran the open 400, but he's never run it once in college. Thoughts?
I just posted a few guys. But, the real reason why you rarely see it is because they can’t. A person who is fat in the 100m rarely decides to do hurdles. It’s like steeplers.
Slightly second rate people can flock to a less sexy event and have more success.
A person who is fat rarely does 100m either.
Omar McLeod has broken 10. I call that world class
Stein Georgebrenner wrote:
Tony Dees, Yankee Clipper Track Club
Look it up.
The Boss was more than baseball.
I looked it up. World class hurdler but well over 10 in the 100 and well over 20 in the 200.
Fanny Blankers-Koen won the 100, 200, 4 x 100 and 80H at the 1948 London OG.
kipkip wrote:
Gary Glitter wrote:
Virtually every world class 400m Hurdler is also world class in the 400m. Virtually every world class 100m/110m Hurdler is also world class in the 100m or 200m.
There are dozens of examples on this thread. Kerron Clement, Angelo Taylor, Bershawn Jackson, Allen Johnson and Joey Woody have all been on World Champ Gold Medalist 4x400m Relays the past 20 years. Bennie Brazell was on LSU's collegiate record 4x400m Relay (and also anchored their NCAA champ 4x1000m Relay).
Especially in other countries where the talent pool isn't as deep, hurdlers make up a large portion of the relay pools.
Moses' 400 PR is 45.60. Was that world-class in 1977?
45.60 would have qualified for the Olympic 400m final in 1976. WR at the time was 43.86 from 1968
Bad Wigins wrote:
It's a sprint in Nordic skiing.
You're a moron
act wrote:
Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:
Umm... ever heard of Gail Devers?
and Harrison Dillard
In the late 70s I was named to New York's all-city track team, and "Bones" Dillard was the guest speaker at the awards dinner. He brought along a film (Yes, an actual reel of film in those days) detailing his failure to qualify for the 110 hurdles, but how he persevered, qualified in the flat 100, and won gold. It's an inspiring story.
He still looked youthful and fit at the time, and radiated positivity. I was in awe of this legend, and the handshake and smile and words of encouragement I got as he handed me my plaque are things I've never forgotten. The man is (he's still alive) a true champion.