Congratulations SARA HALL 2:26:20 on in Ottawa Marathon

douglas burke wrote:

Greeners wrote:

Two of the best US marathoners ever (Ryan and Sara) What a shame they won't ever have offspring that receives that prime DNA match-up!

How do you know? 35 is not to old for a women to have a baby, heck how old was Janet Jackson when she had her baby? 50 something?

Ummm, why do you think they adopted genius?

Wanjiru in the sauna wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

Still, wasn't the temperature in the high 50s working its way into the 60s? If that is the best that Ottawa can do in late May, that's too hot for a marathon.

Too hot for you maybe.

For example:

vivalarepublica wrote:

GirlyManTrudeau wrote:

Aside from some headwinds in the first half conditions were about as good as can be expected in Ottawa in late-May. Last two years were far too hot though. Saw Sara coming back up Sussex and she looked strong (about 37km).

Still, wasn't the temperature in the high 50s working its way into the 60s? If that is the best that Ottawa can do in late May, that's too hot for a marathon.

Perhaps, not ideal, but I will take those temps any day.

More more wrote:

One minute PR after all these years...impressive.

How is it possible to find fault with what Sara just did?

Her great run got me thinking about age group recards

https://mybestruns.com/world_records.php

36 Irina Mikitenko Germany 9/28/2008 Berlin, Germany 8/23/1972 Women 35-39 02:19:18

When Sarah Hal was 3 days old JBS ran 2:22:43.

Dathan longevity wrote:

Dathan intends to compete well into his master’s career.

Dathan intends to drop out of races with injuries well into his master's career.

Hayduke wrote:

Dathan longevity wrote:

Dathan intends to compete well into his master’s career.

Dathan intends to drop out of races with injuries well into his master's career.

You don't know Dathan, that I'm sure of. He trains hard but has simply had some bad luck.

rojo wrote:

No, No, No.

Huddle, Cragg, Flanagan, Hasay and Linden are a class above everyone else and it's not even close.

interesting that Huddle is the only one not using shoes with a spring-plate in that shortlist

one thing I really admire about Sara is she is also not using shoes with springs

Shalane's best OTQ in 2012 before even the prototypes of the vapors existed was 2:28 over the (3-year?) qualifying period

2012 was one the last years you can see reality in american women's marathon times

More more wrote:

One minute PR after all these years...impressive.

The obligatory LRC idiot post.

zoomzoomzoom wrote:

rojo wrote:

No, No, No.

Huddle, Cragg, Flanagan, Hasay and Linden are a class above everyone else and it's not even close.

interesting that Huddle is the only one not using shoes with a spring-plate in that shortlist

one thing I really admire about Sara is she is also not using shoes with springs

Shalane's best OTQ in 2012 before even the prototypes of the vapors existed was 2:28 over the (3-year?) qualifying period

2012 was one the last years you can see reality in american women's marathon times

www.usatf.org/events/2012/OlympicTrials-Marathon/entry/entryWomen/eligible.asp

Time to put asterisks for times run in 4%'s?

And the soon to be released this fall Brooks shoe.

*** wrote:

Time to put asterisks for times run in 4%'s?

if serious, part of the problem of course would be identifying shoes with springs on a per race, per athlete basis, because there is no review of equipment like for the field people at track meets, etc.

would it be so crazy to require a TUE for an athlete to use shoes with springs?

I think it would make perfect sense and be completely fair, there would be a record of their use, the record would be semi-private, and athletes with a legit need for springs would still have access to such shoes (of course then suddenly everyone at NOP has a TUE for springs but that's another issue for another day/thread)

ps. we also need asterisks for Boston 2011, had to double-take on Desi dropping a 2:22 - why on earth does usatf allow point-to-point single-direction courses with lots of descent as olympic trial qualifiers when no olympic course would ever allow that standard under IAAF rules