I don't think you'd be disappointed a lot of EVA foam shoes gave me the same feeling you mentioned. Can't quite say I experienced that with these.
I don't think you'd be disappointed a lot of EVA foam shoes gave me the same feeling you mentioned. Can't quite say I experienced that with these.
Yea, for most of my long runs and long tempos, I typically wear well cushioned trainers or Saucony Freedom because my forefoot feels the pain on longer runs. Decided to wear my racing flats on a long tempo to see how they would feel in preparation for a half marathon, and they just felt flat about halfway through. Not sure if typical racing flats work for my pace, weight, and running style for more than a 10k or so. I'm thinking that something like the Boston Boost or Kinvara might be a better choice for the longer races, despite the weight penalty.
vivalarepublica wrote:
Yea, for most of my long runs and long tempos, I typically wear well cushioned trainers or Saucony Freedom because my forefoot feels the pain on longer runs. Decided to wear my racing flats on a long tempo to see how they would feel in preparation for a half marathon, and they just felt flat about halfway through. Not sure if typical racing flats work for my pace, weight, and running style for more than a 10k or so. I'm thinking that something like the Boston Boost or Kinvara might be a better choice for the longer races, despite the weight penalty.
I don't think you'd be disappointed in doing that.
For what its worth and everyone foot strike is different but I'm more of a forefoot/toe runner and have done up to 11 miles in the Nike Zoom Streak LT3 very comfortably.
I love those shoes and they are my absolute favorite but I only got 130 miles out of them before blowing out the upper I use them just to race in now.
vivalarepublica wrote:
Yea, for most of my long runs and long tempos, I typically wear well cushioned trainers or Saucony Freedom because my forefoot feels the pain on longer runs. Decided to wear my racing flats on a long tempo to see how they would feel in preparation for a half marathon, and they just felt flat about halfway through. Not sure if typical racing flats work for my pace, weight, and running style for more than a 10k or so. I'm thinking that something like the Boston Boost or Kinvara might be a better choice for the longer races, despite the weight penalty.
I've worn the adios for a marathon and the old Saucony A5 for several half marathons. If I were to target another marathon, I'd absolutely wear the Boston. I feel like the extra cushion would be well worth the extra 1 oz. I've gone 20 miles in the Boston with no problems whatsoever.
Thanks for the input, guys. Good to know that the Boston holds up for 20 miles. The Zoom Streak LT seem like the perfect shoe for shorter road races and even indoor tracks that don't allow spikes, but just a little thin for longer races. I would buy a pair if I didn't have too many shoes already.
I am a forefoot/midfoot striker, and I have drifted towards low drop shoes with more forefoot cushion and less heel, but I keep a couple higher drop shoes in rotation to take pressure off my calves/achilles. My racing flats are lower drop that keep me on my toes, so I am hesitant to use something the Boston with a 10mm drop. But they seem like a good, semi-lightweight candidate to hold up well over 26 miles.
Anyways, I'll probably get a pair because I need another set of higher drop trainers and see how it goes.
Also, I think we tend to obsess over shoes too much these days, as the guys in the 70s/80s were faster than most of us and wearing what we would consider utter garbage. We probably should focus more on our training.
You know I had similar outlook and always looked at shoes with a lower offset. I've traditionally ran in 0-4mm and tried the zoom streak 6 which had 8mm it wasnt bad but I could feel my heel touch the ground a little more as the run went on. When that happened I knew I really wouldnt care for it in a race.
Surprisingly I didn't get that same same feeling after doing 7 in the Bostons with its 10mm offset and 2+ ounces extra in weight.
Maybe it was placebo and excitement of running in new shoes but the Boston 6 doesnt feel like its weight at all.
This shoe can truly do it all.
I have about ~500 miles on mine.. a couple weekends ago, I ran 50 miles in a rocky desert in them
This week - I took them out on track and laid down a ~5:01 mile (my mile PR). One of the best shoes ever invented... and durable as hell.
I love Hoka's, but they are an expensive habit. Sucks when a shoe lasts 250 miles
Runnah19 wrote:
This shoe can truly do it all.
I have about ~500 miles on mine.. a couple weekends ago, I ran 50 miles in a rocky desert in them
This week - I took them out on track and laid down a ~5:01 mile (my mile PR). One of the best shoes ever invented... and durable as hell.
I love Hoka's, but they are an expensive habit. Sucks when a shoe lasts 250 miles
Join the club im switching for the exact reason (durable)
I'm going to try them out tomorrow for my 800s workout on the road again and see if they feel just as good as my longer run the other day.
Did 6 miles with 4 800s mixed in.
Solid shoe definitely not for me though at faster speeds which was expected since its more a distance shoe. Seems the assumption for longer runs/races or easy runs this shoe is great.
At a faster pace felt the heel lock in my foot which made the toe box feel a bit weird, could be a size or lacing issue I suppose. I live in a hilly area so tend to buy shoes a half size bigger to prevent toe box banging.
Positive is I didn't feel beat to hell normally like I do with lighter shoes albeit a smidge slower.
I have the 5 not the 6 but I agree with all the sentiments in this thread. Excellent shoe. I have about 500 miles on mine I would guess and they still have plenty of life left.
I got a pair of the Bostons this week. The local Jackrabbit subsidiary had them on sale for even more than the Jackrabbit website. What a nice surprise! So I decided to buy a bunch nutrition items to fully spend my latest prize winnings (Huma gel has been my favorite so far).
Took them out for a relaxed run on Wednesday and I didn't really have an opinion after that because it was a break-in run. Today, took them out for a long tempo that totaled 13+ after all was said and done, and they did a heck of job. Felt like I killed today. They are a great shoe for faster runs and I feel like I'm running faster without trying. Probably will wear them for my half marathon next weekend rather than my usual racing flats, which feel a bit flat for anything longer than 5-6 miles.
I have two gripes, though: they seem to loosen up a bit during the run and I wish they had an 8mm drop with a tad more forefoot cushion. Otherwise, the shoe lives up to the hype.
vivalarepublica wrote:
I have two gripes, though: they seem to loosen up a bit during the run and I wish they had an 8mm drop with a tad more forefoot cushion. Otherwise, the shoe lives up to the hype.
Wouldn't that be three gripes? ;)
Those are my only gripes with the shoe, too. Have you considered putting an insert in the forefoot? It seems like that would add some cushion and lower the drop. I'm cheap and lazy, though, so I just run in the shoe as-is.
Kennekuk Jack wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
I have two gripes, though: they seem to loosen up a bit during the run and I wish they had an 8mm drop with a tad more forefoot cushion. Otherwise, the shoe lives up to the hype.
Wouldn't that be three gripes? ;)
Those are my only gripes with the shoe, too. Have you considered putting an insert in the forefoot? It seems like that would add some cushion and lower the drop. I'm cheap and lazy, though, so I just run in the shoe as-is.
Putting an insert in thr forefoot seems like it would require more finesse and detail than I'm willing to put forth, considering that would change the entire fit and feel of a shoe that is already a bit of a tight fit. I'll run my half marathon this weekend and see how they do.
Runnah19 wrote:
This shoe can truly do it all.
I have about ~500 miles on mine.. a couple weekends ago, I ran 50 miles in a rocky desert in them
This week - I took them out on track and laid down a ~5:01 mile (my mile PR). One of the best shoes ever invented... and durable as hell.
I love Hoka's, but they are an expensive habit. Sucks when a shoe lasts 250 miles
I guess I'm in the minority. I've got 150 miles on my Boston Boosts. They feel flat, noticeably less snappy than when I first got them.
Durability hype IMO wrote:
Runnah19 wrote:
This shoe can truly do it all.
I have about ~500 miles on mine.. a couple weekends ago, I ran 50 miles in a rocky desert in them
This week - I took them out on track and laid down a ~5:01 mile (my mile PR). One of the best shoes ever invented... and durable as hell.
I love Hoka's, but they are an expensive habit. Sucks when a shoe lasts 250 miles
I guess I'm in the minority. I've got 150 miles on my Boston Boosts. They feel flat, noticeably less snappy than when I first got them.
The problem I've had with all my Bostons is sure, the upper lasts forever, the midsole stays springy, and the Continental rubber is phenomenal, but the actual Boost material starts to curve and warp. The shoe feels legitametly curved when I put it on. I love the shoe, but after 300 miles I can feel the difference so it's no greater than any shoe by the way of durability. Those first 300 miles are great though.
My Boston upper is fraying after 140 miles and I think the bottoms have worn down so much its causing severe burning hot spots.
Not the boston's but the adios I have 360 miles and one of the rubber outsole sections in the midfoot detached from the rest. Also lots of wear in the toe-off area. I'm kinda disappointed in this continental / adiwear rubber crap. I have eva shoes (clifton, kinvaras, brooks connect) that show very little outsole wear. Unfortunately the midsole is junk after 300-350 but I force myself to wear until 500 to get my monies worth.
I have both bostons and adioses and they last forever for me. outsole looks great after 400+ miles, no tears in the upper.
JarJar789 wrote:
Not the boston's but the adios I have 360 miles and one of the rubber outsole sections in the midfoot detached from the rest. Also lots of wear in the toe-off area. I'm kinda disappointed in this continental / adiwear rubber crap. I have eva shoes (clifton, kinvaras, brooks connect) that show very little outsole wear. Unfortunately the midsole is junk after 300-350 but I force myself to wear until 500 to get my monies worth.
I've moved on my running style just doesn't mesh with the shoes. For the price just not worth the it.
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