No Coincidence... school shootings connected to Internet use

Is it just me? wrote:

School shootings began about 20 years ago, the same time the internet boom happened.

30 years ago there were orphans and abusive parents, bullies, guns & mental illness. The one thing there wasn’t? The internet. And school shootings. Coincidence?

Agreed. It has turned us all into cowardly twits and relentless masturbators.

sayer of uhhh.... no wrote:

uhhh.... no, it's a logical viewpoint.

Do you have any idea how many felons carry guns? They already face immediate jail time for. You want to disarm regular citizens while leaving the guys who are already committing most of the crimes untouched.

Says the NRA using the fear factor. Works well apparently.

It can be done effectively.

Whether it should be is the question much like treatment of mental illness as just part of the larger discussion which no one wants to have...the original point.

runn wrote:

My kids were on the internet as much as any teenager growing up. They're good adults now.

The difference? They were brought in a caring, loving home. At least a normal home. My (now ex) wife and I aren't on drugs, didn't overdrink, and paid attention to our kids- putting their interests above ours- and it wasn't a sacrifice.

Hey, that was a really great proof by anecdote!

Good job!

The only common thread in "school" shootings is a military rifle. There's no reason for anyone who isn't fighting a foreign enemy to have or use a weapon like this. That said, given that this very nation is being controlled by Russia ...

The fokus wrote:

If it were made illegal to carry a firearm (I'm not advocating for that), it would be accomplished over a number of years. There would be no coup, there would be no uptick in crime, and there would likely be less mass shootings after a bit of time. If, eventually, a person was going to spend a few years in jail for the mere act of carrying, the number of people carrying guns would be reduced to as near a zero point as you can get.

I'm almost positive it's already illegal to go into a school and shoot people. If making something go away was as simple as outlawing it then the world would already be a safe place with no drugs or shootings or anything dangerous.

Maybe we should stop treating people so badly that they resort to violence. Is it that hard to be nice to people?

Yeah, laws are not perfect therefore we should not have any.

Really good point you make there.

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BTW - your second paragraph is correct and relevant. Too bad you ruined it by your very stupid first paragraph.

Don't forget Marylin Manson!

Is it just me? wrote:

School shootings began about 20 years ago, the same time the internet boom happened.

30 years ago there were orphans and abusive parents, bullies, guns & mental illness. The one thing there wasn’t? The internet. And school shootings. Coincidence?

it's not hard wrote:

CuriousPerson wrote:

the shear *number* of guns

I think the word you were looking for is sheer.

Eye no, wright? lolz

STSBO wrote:

Good times are killing me wrote:

I'm almost positive it's already illegal to go into a school and shoot people. If making something go away was as simple as outlawing it then the world would already be a safe place with no drugs or shootings or anything dangerous.

Maybe we should stop treating people so badly that they resort to violence. Is it that hard to be nice to people?

Yeah, laws are not perfect therefore we should not have any.

Really good point you make there.

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BTW - your second paragraph is correct and relevant. Too bad you ruined it by your very stupid first paragraph.

The problem with adding more laws constantly to combat the ones we already have that don't work is that there are so many laws you cannot enforce them. Maybe we should have very few laws and then actively enforce the ones we have. This of course has nothing to do with school shootings. You can't law your way out of them in this country. Gonna have to dig deeper than that and nobody wants to so they will continue.

Good times are killing me wrote:

The fokus wrote:

If it were made illegal to carry a firearm (I'm not advocating for that), it would be accomplished over a number of years. There would be no coup, there would be no uptick in crime, and there would likely be less mass shootings after a bit of time. If, eventually, a person was going to spend a few years in jail for the mere act of carrying, the number of people carrying guns would be reduced to as near a zero point as you can get.

I'm almost positive it's already illegal to go into a school and shoot people. If making something go away was as simple as outlawing it then the world would already be a safe place with no drugs or shootings or anything dangerous.

The dumbazz of the moment post.

Don't make or change laws because people might break them. Amazing.

No seriously guys, I think it's the Internet...

https://goo.gl/images/J8kedz

The Fokus wrote:

Good times are killing me wrote:

I'm almost positive it's already illegal to go into a school and shoot people. If making something go away was as simple as outlawing it then the world would already be a safe place with no drugs or shootings or anything dangerous.

The dumbazz of the moment post.

Don't make or change laws because people might break them. Amazing.

You read that post and that's what you took away from it? Awesome.

CorrelationNation wrote:

Correlation does not mean causation. There is also 1.5 billion more people on the planet compared to 20 years ago... more people more issues.

The internet can be a bad thing, but I think it does more good than harm. There are several other countries with internet access and significantly less fatalities. There may be several people in Japan with internet addiction for example, but how many school shootings or shooting incidents does their country have annually? Virtually none.

You can’t compare to countries with gun control laws. Yes other countries have the Internet but they also don’t have ability to sensationalize online.

School shootings happen because the whole country is guaranteed to freak out about it. Some people crave that sort of morbid, blaze-of-glory attention.

Those kind of people are rare but will ALWAYS exist. The industry that enables and exploits them doesn't need to exist. Like it or not, the only way to make it stop is to ignore it.

Beautiful Day wrote:

The only common thread in "school" shootings is a military rifle. There's no reason for anyone who isn't fighting a foreign enemy to have or use a weapon like this. That said, given that this very nation is being controlled by Russia ...

Agreed. No one needs a semi-automatic rifle and the fact that a 19 year old with a very troubled past obtained one legally is sickening. Of course nothing will be done like every other time this happens and it scares me to think how easily it will be for other mentally unstable people to purchase these.

Beautiful Day wrote:

The only common thread in "school" shootings is a military rifle. There's no reason for anyone who isn't fighting a foreign enemy to have or use a weapon like this. That said, given that this very nation is being controlled by Russia ...

God you're a f*cking moron. The Columbine shooters used 3 shotguns and a pistol. the VA Tech shooter used two pistols.

The ridiculous liberal narrative that prohibiting AR-15's is the magic pill to ending mass shootings is just utter horseshit.

Good times are killing me wrote:

You read that post and that's what you took away from it? Awesome.

You posted it dumbazz

Liberal much? wrote:

God you're a f*cking moron. The Columbine shooters used 3 shotguns and a pistol. the VA Tech shooter used two pistols.

The ridiculous liberal narrative that prohibiting AR-15's is the magic pill to ending mass shootings is just utter horseshit.

Whatever narrative one wishes to place upon the answer is that it cannot be a single angle answer which is dependent upon which side of the political spectrum you fall on. Both sides have some serious issues to deal with in this matter.

Giving psychotropic drugs (which can have side effects such as suicidal and violent ideation) to brains that aren't fully formed in a nation in which guns are ubiquitous, in which the majority of entertainment is about violence, and in which criminals earn a certain glory (they become subjects of TV shows and movies and even have their own Wikipedia pages) is more than likely the cause of the proliferation of school shootings. Keeping giving these kids drugs while keeping guns in the house, while having no meaningful measures to keep guns away from people who are on these drugs or are mentally ill. Keep letting them watch these superhero movies that solve everything with violence. Keep letting them first-person shooter games. Just keep on keeping on, and there will be more of these events.