Thoughts on the New TFRRS Look

I like how you can sort by class (FR, SO, JR, SR)

I hadn't noticed that option. Where were you doing that at? In one of the lists?

TFRRS Judger wrote:

I hadn't noticed that option. Where were you doing that at? In one of the lists?

Yes - go to one of the performance lists and you should be able to see it as the third option down on the left side.

Jumping through the seasons is still a slow process.

I hope with these updates that they can improve the outdoor performance lists by listing if marks are wind-aided or not. They didn't update the 2017 outdoor season, but maybe they will for the 2018 outdoor season?

I *HATE* the new "Meet results" view. I want to see all information on one line on a laptop. I can understand two lines on an iPhone.

Their "Season History" view has the exact information as "Meet results" except for place result, and each result is on one line. They should add place to Season History and then they don't need the "Meet Results" view at all.

Also... I miss the Freshman, Soph, Junior and Senior labels on Season History. You have to guess the year class for an athlete.

I keep getting this error on half the tfrrs links I click on:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator at

support@directathletics.com

to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

This isnt really a thought or an argument but rather a knowledge.

All the money in the world from rich parents who send their kids through Tufts University and M.I.T. can't buy you a clue as proven by the new wordpress-ish layout. In the world of software you either have it or you don't. That is not to say I do not respect the insitutions these guys came from because I do. But the two people in charge of tfrrs.org simply cannot get it and wont ever. They just dont have it.

I have yet to see an implementation in the running niche that displays the wizardry of UX design/usability and demonstrates a true command of the software development life cycle.

I challenge the youth out there reading this to team up and topple these severely limited individuals. You'll need to be equipped with a top-level skillset to harness the informatic chaos of running statistics and an unrivaled passion that either intrepidly realizes a different source of sustenance and/or is gullible enough to believe that someone (or something) of bigger notoriety will see the value in what you produce and reward you. You will also need to navigate the aristocratic powers that be to attain long term organizational acceptance.

Godspeed.

Totally acceptable new layout. They shouldve kept the same face but only made it better instead of a total new one.

tfrrs is buggy keeps blowing up on me.

some of the lists are useless with bad formatting and missing important info.

The update to the summary section at the top absolutely blows. Why would anyone think this is an improvement? Info you used to be able to see at one glance is now multiple clicks away. With the old layout you could easily see someone's progression year to year and season to season in each event and their PB was conveniently highlighted all in one place. Now you don't even know which year or season their PB is from, and you have to click through to see each season.

The event history and season history tabs are improvements (although you can't see place now), but the summary section has lost 85% of its utility. it just takes more time to get the info you want.

Pretty awful update. The site is not nearly as useful now, and it seems like they are trying to go with a mobile look. Oh, well, it's free, so we get what we pay for.

pissed off wrote:

The update to the summary section at the top absolutely blows. Why would anyone think this is an improvement?

I think it's an improvement for when I'm trying to follow athletes who end up doing multiple events (i.e. decathlon), as the summary previous table had alignment problems so the marks would not line up in the columns under the event headers.

pissed off wrote:

The update to the summary section at the top absolutely blows. Why would anyone think this is an improvement? Info you used to be able to see at one glance is now multiple clicks away. With the old layout you could easily see someone's progression year to year and season to season in each event and their PB was conveniently highlighted all in one place. Now you don't even know which year or season their PB is from, and you have to click through to see each season.

The event history and season history tabs are improvements (although you can't see place now), but the summary section has lost 85% of its utility. it just takes more time to get the info you want.

Agree with everything you said.

I also came to rely on the old tfrrs summary section to get a quick snapshot of athlete progression. I don't want to scroll through pages of athlete data and try to calculate this stuff in my head.

Suggestions to fix the new TFRRS:

- fix all the links that blow up (there are many)

- add a place column to the athlete "season history" and "event history" reports (how hard can this be???)

- remove the unneeded athlete "meet results" report

Athletic.net does a great job presenting data, and they are 10x faster loading pages than tfrrs. Unfortunately athletic.net does not have 100% coverage of college results like tfrrs does.

This is literally just jargon and buzzwords. Some thoughts happen to be in complete sentences, but (as you said) all the money in the world can't buy you good grammar or a respectable opinion.

the interface is much simpler which is good

TheMidCoach wrote:

the interface is much simpler which is good

Yes in general I agree simpler is better, but TFRRS needs to add finish place to athlete's Season History and Event History reports!!!!