Americans history with EPO is worse then the rest of the world combined

Firstly ..... Although EPO testing was officially introduced at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, urine and blood samples from as early as 1992 were able to be re-tested using new and improved methods ...... Hence why Lance was found guilty of using EPO in his 1999 Tour De France (That's right, you don't need a time machine) .... Secondly ....... I'm not Russian, I just think it's ironic that the USA pretend to wear a super hero cape of fighting the war on PEDs and point the finger at everyone else in the world without acknowledging their own problems ..... You only need to look as far as Justin Gatlin to see how Americans glorify their athletes when beating Usain Bolt, as long as your winning, you won't have any problems with USADA

Australia's Galen Rupp wrote:

Firstly ..... Although EPO testing was officially introduced at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, urine and blood samples from as early as 1992 were able to be re-tested using new and improved methods ...... Hence why Lance was found guilty of using EPO in his 1999 Tour De France (That's right, you don't need a time machine) .... Secondly ....... I'm not Russian, I just think it's ironic that the USA pretend to wear a super hero cape of fighting the war on PEDs and point the finger at everyone else in the world without acknowledging their own problems ..... You only need to look as far as Justin Gatlin to see how Americans glorify their athletes when beating Usain Bolt, as long as your winning, you won't have any problems with USADA

If the cops in a town decide to fight speeding, the number of speeding tickets given out will go up, not down. Does that make sense to you?

Ok, now apply the same logic to doping. If the doping agency in country A tries to catch dopers while the doping agency in country B does not try to catch dopers, country A will have more positives than country B.

Really simple stuff.

rojo wrote:

Your post makes no sense. Wouldnt the “nop” drama disprove your theory ? It shows USAda is actually going for clean sport.

It might, if USADA would actually do something about NOP.

So far, we have only seen a report because of some hackers, no action whatsoever, despite the usage of a forbidden method (could lead to a four year ban for each involved athlete), Rupp's elevated testo and listed as "likely doping" by the IAAF.

On the other hand, USADA has a history of accepting eating and kissing as valid reasons for positive tests. Oh, and running through security in an airport as a compelling reason to miss a test.

casual obsever wrote:

rojo wrote:

Your post makes no sense. Wouldnt the “nop” drama disprove your theory ? It shows USAda is actually going for clean sport.

It might, if USADA would actually do something about NOP.

So far, we have only seen a report because of some hackers, no action whatsoever, despite the usage of a forbidden method (could lead to a four year ban for each involved athlete), Rupp's elevated testo and listed as "likely doping" by the IAAF.

On the other hand, USADA has a history of accepting eating and kissing as valid reasons for positive tests. Oh, and running through security in an airport as a compelling reason to miss a test.

Somebody claimed Centro had an off-score spike before Rio?

rojo wrote:

[quote]Australia's Galen Rupp wrote:

the hospital.

What?

rojo wrote:

Australia's Galen Rupp wrote:

.. It's a shame the country persecutes Russia the way they do when USA is just as guilty but would rather seem like the good guys fighting for a clean sport ..... The whole NOP drama is a classic case of how badly USATF handles this problem

Your post is so stupid I actually am taking time to respond to it from the hospital.

Please Get back to me when Russia ever takes down an icon like Lance Armstrong or does an investigation of someone of the fame of Salazar.

Your post makes no sense. Wouldnt the “nop” drama disprove your theory ? It shows USAda is actually going for clean sport.

"After a lengthy criminal investigation, federal prosecutors in February 2012 dropped their case against Lance Armstrong, to the surprise of many..."

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Somebody claimed Centro had an off-score spike before Rio?

IIRC: forbidden method before London 2012, testo spike before Rio 2016, and off-score spike before Boston 2017.

But yeah, USADA is oh so tough on NOP.

This study is not only track and field... Other sports like weightlifting and body building have hundreds of busts per year.

It's not news that the U.S. would have the most busts since we have the most "professional" sports in the world and the most stringent testing.

This is not news at all. It's common sense.

casual obsever wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Somebody claimed Centro had an off-score spike before Rio?

IIRC: forbidden method before London 2012, testo spike before Rio 2016, and off-score spike before Boston 2017.

But yeah, USADA is oh so tough on NOP.

Oh sorry, I was talking about Rupp, and didn't see that you then asked about Centro. Yes, Centro had an ABP violation early 2016 -> "likely doping" back then.

Think a little harder guys wrote:

It's not news that the U.S. would have the most busts since we have the most "professional" sports in the world and the most stringent testing.

"most busts", ok I can see that, but not "worse then the rest of the world combined" with a population of some 320 million, less than 5% of the world.

Also, I highly doubt that we have "the most stringent testing". What makes you say that?

What's different compared to, say, all EU countries - many who criminalized doping - and Canada?

No surprise here. The country least likely to put in the hard work will be the country most likely to have the highest number of caught dopers. There is no evidence to suggest the US test more US athletes. The OP states a fact. Stop crying about you hysterical bunch of whining victims.

rojo wrote:

Australia's Galen Rupp wrote:

.. It's a shame the country persecutes Russia the way they do when USA is just as guilty but would rather seem like the good guys fighting for a clean sport ..... The whole NOP drama is a classic case of how badly USATF handles this problem

Your post is so stupid I actually am taking time to respond to it from the hospital.

Please Get back to me when Russia ever takes down an icon like Lance Armstrong or does an investigation of someone of the fame of Salazar.

Your post makes no sense. Wouldnt the “nop” drama disprove your theory ? It shows USAda is actually going for clean sport.

You need a good shoeing my boy. With an inoperable jaw you'd be an amusing ashtray for my man fat.

casual obsever wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

IIRC: forbidden method before London 2012, testo spike before Rio 2016, and off-score spike before Boston 2017.

But yeah, USADA is oh so tough on NOP.

Oh sorry, I was talking about Rupp, and didn't see that you then asked about Centro. Yes, Centro had an ABP violation early 2016 -> "likely doping" back then.

According to Russian hackers...uhuh.

blind faith wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

Oh sorry, I was talking about Rupp, and didn't see that you then asked about Centro. Yes, Centro had an ABP violation early 2016 -> "likely doping" back then.

According to Russian hackers...uhuh.

Well...if it's an authentic document then who cares who hacked it. ?