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    • alanson
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      • Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/16/2017 9:02PM
      • alanson
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      • Finished 2nd to Laura Muir, beat everyone else by a good margin including DScott, ELipari, AEccleston, HEngland, LJohnson

        1 113 MUIR Laura 1993 GBR 4:05.01
        2 118 EFRAIMSON Alexa 1997 USA (SB) 4:06.12
        3 115 FREITAS PEN Marta 1993 POR 4:07.10
        4 125 VRZALOVA Simona 1985 CZE (PB) 4:07.21
        5 122 BUSIENEI Selah 1991 KEN (SB) 4:07.76
        6 132 SCOTT Dominque 1992 RSA (PB) 4:08.04
        7 120 LIPARI Emily 1992 USA 4:08.32
        8 126 SUTHERLAND Sara 1992 USA (SB) 4:08.39
        9 124 SUJEW Diana 1990 GER 4:08.53
        10 123 MAGNANI Margherita 1987 ITA 4:08
        11 112 FERNANDEZ Blanca 1992 ESP 4:09.30
        12 114 ECCLESTON Amanda 1990 USA 4:09.38
        13 127 ENGLAND Hannah 1987  GBR (SB) 4:09.52
        14 119 CHEMNUNG Loice 1997 KEN 4:10.23
        15 129 EDWARDS Kaela 1993  USA 4:10.70
        16 128 CHELANGAT Sheila 1998 KEN 4:11.13
        17 117 JOHNSON Lauren 1987 USA 4:11.23
        18 131 TSERNOV Liina 1987 EST (SB) 4:11.47
        19 136 TUEI Sandra Chebet 1998 KEN 4:12.20
        20 121 LAGAT Violah 1989 KEN 4:13.91
        21 130 SEE Heidi 1989 AUS 4:14.67
        22 137 MATTAGLIANO Joyce 1994 ITA (PB) 4:14.78
        23 133 KACZYNSKA Paulina 1991 POL (SB) 4:16.17
        24 135 DIBABA Anna 1996  ETH 4:23.08

        116 MCDONALD Sarah 1993 GBR DNF
        134 TVERDOSTUP Tamara 1979 UKR DNF

        m. 400 : 1.02.6 - m. 800 : 2.11.5 - m. 1000: 2.44.7 - m. 1200: 3.15.2
    • Carma Bum
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/16/2017 11:42PM - in reply to alanson
      • Carma Bum
      • Her development is reminding me of Ajee Wilson...which is a good thing.
    • PortlandXCGirl
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      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 2:11AM - in reply to alanson
      • PortlandXCGirl
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      • alanson wrote:
        Finished 2nd to Laura Muir, beat everyone else by a good margin including DScott, ELipari, AEccleston, HEngland, LJohnson

        1 113 MUIR Laura 1993 GBR 4:05.01
        2 118 EFRAIMSON Alexa 1997 USA (SB) 4:06.12
        3 115 FREITAS PEN Marta 1993 POR 4:07.10
        4 125 VRZALOVA Simona 1985 CZE (PB) 4:07.21
        5 122 BUSIENEI Selah 1991 KEN (SB) 4:07.76
        6 132 SCOTT Dominque 1992 RSA (PB) 4:08.04
        7 120 LIPARI Emily 1992 USA 4:08.32
        8 126 SUTHERLAND Sara 1992 USA (SB) 4:08.39
        9 124 SUJEW Diana 1990 GER 4:08.53
        10 123 MAGNANI Margherita 1987 ITA 4:08
        11 112 FERNANDEZ Blanca 1992 ESP 4:09.30
        12 114 ECCLESTON Amanda 1990 USA 4:09.38
        13 127 ENGLAND Hannah 1987  GBR (SB) 4:09.52
        14 119 CHEMNUNG Loice 1997 KEN 4:10.23
        15 129 EDWARDS Kaela 1993  USA 4:10.70
        16 128 CHELANGAT Sheila 1998 KEN 4:11.13
        17 117 JOHNSON Lauren 1987 USA 4:11.23
        18 131 TSERNOV Liina 1987 EST (SB) 4:11.47
        19 136 TUEI Sandra Chebet 1998 KEN 4:12.20
        20 121 LAGAT Violah 1989 KEN 4:13.91
        21 130 SEE Heidi 1989 AUS 4:14.67
        22 137 MATTAGLIANO Joyce 1994 ITA (PB) 4:14.78
        23 133 KACZYNSKA Paulina 1991 POL (SB) 4:16.17
        24 135 DIBABA Anna 1996  ETH 4:23.08

        116 MCDONALD Sarah 1993 GBR DNF
        134 TVERDOSTUP Tamara 1979 UKR DNF

        m. 400 : 1.02.6 - m. 800 : 2.11.5 - m. 1000: 2.44.7 - m. 1200: 3.15.2
        She also beat Marta Freitas, the girl in 3rd, who incidentally won the 2016 NCAA outdoor title in the 1500. Safe to say that going pro early was the right choice for Efraimson.
    • All about the money
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 7:22AM - in reply to PortlandXCGirl
      • All about the money
      • Until she develops a real kick, she'll almost be good enough to really compete in the 1500. Me thinks 5000 is in her future. I feel the same way about Hunter.
    • not agreeing
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 8:19AM - in reply to PortlandXCGirl
      • not agreeing
      • PortlandXCGirl wrote:
        Safe to say that going pro early was the right choice for Efraimson.
        I'm thrilled Efraimson is doing well. We want our biggest talents to develop.

        However, I think going pro, not going pro, has many many factors. It's impossible for anyone to judge who doesn't know the size of the contract, it's length, etc. And even then it might be hard to know.

        I mean imagine for a moment she's in the NCAA. She would be utterly dominant. Wouldn't that be fun? It's what I miss about college basketball players going pro - I like them to become brands - and names in college. Tim Tebow might not have been a great pro quarterback but he was a legend in the college ranks. As a result, we care about him now.

        If it was my daughter, I'd much rather they went to college and ran for a team, became a legend there, didn't have financial pressures, etc.
    • PrZ
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 9:51AM - in reply to alanson
      • PrZ
      • I think that's her 4th or 5th 4:06 this season. Super consistent, she should be shape to PR in a race that really goes for it. Anybody have race videos from Padova? I'd love to see this race and Hunter's 3:36.
    • Carma Bum
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 9:55AM - in reply to PrZ
      • Carma Bum
      • More important: a first and second against very solid fields in her first overseas trip. Seems to be rising to the occasion.


        PrZ wrote:
        I think that's her 4th or 5th 4:06 this season. Super consistent, she should be shape to PR in a race that really goes for it. Anybody have race videos from Padova? I'd love to see this race and Hunter's 3:36.
    • All about the money
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 10:55AM - in reply to Carma Bum
      • All about the money
      • Not her first overseas trip.
    • All about the money
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 10:56AM - in reply to Carma Bum
      • All about the money
      • Not her first overseas trip.
    • Long road
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 12:01PM - in reply to alanson
      • Long road
      • Nice to see her out there racing. These types of races big crazy crowded fields with lots of elbows and crazy tactics will serve her well in development as a world class athlete. She would have not gotten this experience in college.
        She is the legitimate future of middle distance US women.
    • Gender police
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 2:44PM - in reply to alanson
      • Gender police
      • Workwomanlike

        Cmon buddy, get with the program
    • alanson
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      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 3:25PM - in reply to All about the money
      • alanson
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      • Of course, the odds are she'll never break 4 flat in the 1500 (here's the short list for USA: Rowbury, Slaney, Simpson, Favor Hamilton, Pierce, Wurth-Thomas).

        On the other hand, here are Laura Muir's numbers at age 20: 1500 4:07.76, 800 2:00.80.

        I just think that it's notable that she can grind out 4:06 on a reliable basis, and this gives some promise for cutting a couple of seconds off that time this summer.
    • FormerTree
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 3:29PM - in reply to alanson
      • FormerTree
      • Good for her!

        She has been held to a different standard being a 20 year old pro than if she were a 20 year old sophomore (it's hard to blame people). While she hasn't cracked 4:03 this season, I think we're seeing a nice progression in terms of her racing competitiveness and consistency this season. Whenever RoJo (or is it WeJo - they look the same to me) rings the alarm bell over her not running a PR in 2 years, he should place this in context that it took Jenny Simpson 5 seasons as a 1500m pro to beat the 1500m time she ran when she was still a college steeplechaser. Obviously Jenny had some nice hardware to keep people happy with her performance, but that just shows that if you race well, the times will ultimately come.
    • Boutros Boutros Golly
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/17/2017 5:28PM - in reply to FormerTree
      • Boutros Boutros Golly
      • FormerTree wrote:
        Good for her!

        She has been held to a different standard being a 20 year old pro than if she were a 20 year old sophomore (it's hard to blame people). While she hasn't cracked 4:03 this season, I think we're seeing a nice progression in terms of her racing competitiveness and consistency this season. Whenever RoJo (or is it WeJo - they look the same to me) rings the alarm bell over her not running a PR in 2 years, he should place this in context that it took Jenny Simpson 5 seasons as a 1500m pro to beat the 1500m time she ran when she was still a college steeplechaser. Obviously Jenny had some nice hardware to keep people happy with her performance, but that just shows that if you race well, the times will ultimately come.
        Excellent post. I feel a little experimentation with different tactics might help her finish.
    • FormerTree
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/18/2017 12:01AM - in reply to Carma Bum
      • FormerTree
      • Carma Bum wrote:
        Go to 2:11:40

        http://www.flotrack.org/articl...W1LCWUdXzI

        She got up front of the massive field and stayed there: 63,68,66,66
        Thanks for posting the video. No question Muir was the class of that field, but I'm very impressed with Alexa's race - controlled for the first two laps gave it a good fight at the bell, and never gave up after being gapped.
    • Cyberius
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/18/2017 12:07AM - in reply to FormerTree
      • Cyberius
      • She actually held at least even with Muir the final 50m, which is usually not her strongest part of the race.

        FormerTree wrote:
        Carma Bum wrote:
        Go to 2:11:40

        http://www.flotrack.org/articl...W1LCWUdXzI

        She got up front of the massive field and stayed there: 63,68,66,66
        Thanks for posting the video. No question Muir was the class of that field, but I'm very impressed with Alexa's race - controlled for the first two laps gave it a good fight at the bell, and never gave up after being gapped.
    • Future of Am Middle Distance
      • RE: Efraimson provided a workmanlike SB 4:06 today finishing 2nd to Muir in Padova 7/20/2017 4:52PM - in reply to Cyberius
      • Future of Am Middle Distance
      • She and Muir were the class of the field. It actually appeared to me like Alexa was gaining on Muir in the last 100m and after the sprint to the front at the start of the race. The rabbit was sporadic. Love the way Alexa goes with Muir and fights her to the end, but doesn't sacrifice her race, blowing up. This young lady is really developing nicely. Great job Alexa.