Convicted murderer writes essay about running a marathon in San Quentin State Prison - documentary is being made

Bad Wigins wrote:

people really overreact to murderers who had no effect on their lives at all, somehow they get personally invested in punishing them for the offense to their mind that they killed someone.

It really makes little difference if they get out in 20 years, or never, other than some stranger with an outrage habit would get mad.

I agree somewhat. The media really tries hard to label murderers as the worst possible humans and the public buys into it. Mainly because people fear for their own life and would not want that fate. If they murder for no reason or are a terrorist it's certainly awful. If they murder someone who screwed them over real bad it's a bit more understandable in my opinion although it should obviously not be the resolution. The world as it is today was historically shaped by murders in warfare anyways. Plus it's easy for most people to criticize something they would never do, so of course they would not understand why people resort to murder because they are brainwashed into not ever possibly doing it themselves.

did the 4:01 time include the 30min he wasn't allowed to run? If it does, 3:30 is pretty solid for prison training

Ralphie wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

people really overreact to murderers who had no effect on their lives at all, somehow they get personally invested in punishing them for the offense to their mind that they killed someone.

It really makes little difference if they get out in 20 years, or never, other than some stranger with an outrage habit would get mad.

Obviously you never experienced the pain murder brings to friends and family. Less than 4% of Americans do, so it's not surprising. If you did, you wouldn't say such things.

See? The outraged imagination runs wild at the slightest provocation.

Learn skills beyond wishful thinking and you eventually can focus on things you like, instead of things to lash out at. You're pimping out the pain of people you don't know as a pretext to express your own pain. That's not only exploitative, it's self-defeating to do on a message board where you'll get nothing but pain in return.

Hollywood ending: He gets shanked just after the 24th mile, falls into the arms of his gay lover, and is carried/dragged the last couple of miles across the finish line. As Phidippides did, he rejoices and then passes on to the Afterlife. Happy ending for the warden (race director), the guards (yard traffic control) and the aid station trustees.

4:01 was the time of the guy the article was about btw. I think you could find someone in prison who could run that with no training, probably several people. Good for him though.

Time to celebrate. The governor of California, Jerry Brown, granted Jonathan Chiu a commutation of his sentence. It was originally 50-years-to-life. Brown reduced it to 17 years. Chiu has already served 15 years. So, he'll be free in a few months. I wonder if he'll find his way to this thread. Haha.

Screw this guy.

I was there the night he murdred Travis Parker.

I was giving a music lesson at the music store we both worked at. Travis went out at his car and was shot in cold blood by this clown.

He stumbled into the lobby and bleed out right there in front of us.

I had to sneak my student out the back door thinking there was shooter in the store.

I hope this idiot runs laps until he drops dead.

Do you have a confirmation of that??

If you are referring to this article thn you are mistaken.

https://sanquentinnews.com/our-team/

Nope Not Yet wrote:

Coach G wrote: Ever heard of "Jericho Mile"? The story has already been told.

Mile...marathon...same thing. Fictional...true...same thing. Right? Idiot.

You have ZERO clue what a plot is.

Why wouldn’t the media like hobby joggers? Nearly all runners are hobby joggers, so why would the media focus on less than 1% of runners, unless it is some hobby jogger turned somewhat Elite? Every story loves the under dog!

Bad Wigins wrote:

See? The outraged imagination runs wild at the slightest provocation.

Learn skills beyond wishful thinking and you eventually can focus on things you like, instead of things to lash out at. You're pimping out the pain of people you don't know as a pretext to express your own pain. That's not only exploitative, it's self-defeating to do on a message board where you'll get nothing but pain in return.

I actually agree with Bad Wigins for the first time ever.

Vengeance and anger are depressing emotions and rarely serve a useful purpose. Life in prison is certainly enough punishment. We shouldn't be upset that this prisoner has found a way to keep himself sane.

Asking for my friend Tyrese wrote:

Who holds the 400m record in Prison?

Henry Thomas. Sever 10 years in prison. He split a 44.5 in High School. Ran the anchor leg on the first college team to break 3 minutes. His 400m PR is 45.05.

Karl Hungus wrote:

http://www.fearnotlaw.com/wsnkb/articles/p_v_chiu-15714.html

TLDR version:

Chiu appealed the murder conviction, the court told him to get bent - it wasn't involuntary manslaughter, but he consciously pointed a loaded gun at Travis Parker and shot him 4 times.

Instead of running a marathon in prison, perhaps he can save the taxpayers of California some money and hang himself out of shame.

Its California! He'll be out in 5 years due to overcrowding... Be back on drugs in 6 years...shoot somebody else...and the cycle continues.

So you're saying we should be more sympathetic to murderers cause the act is usually justifiable.

Ok with me.

But could anybody else in prison run like this guy?

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/metrowestdailynews/obituary.aspx?n=kenneth-e-mueller&pid=155044040

After all these years, I have no sympathy.

I can tell you I am not over reacting this was my brother that was murdered . He had never meet my my brother. He just wanted my brother out of the way so he could be a pretend dad. Killed him for no reason. He is actually coming up for parol after only serving 15 years of a 50 year sentence.

That is not true but he has a parol hearing September 2019 I hope he does find his way to this board he is a piece of trash wasting taxpayers money.