I agree with many of your statements. This kid has speed to burn. He may develop into the 800m WR holder and go low 43 before he is done in the sport.
The UTEP race was incredible. To run that fast in an early season 400m in those conditions is unreal.
Korir does not run like a 400m guy. They have the explosive power. And the start from blocks is likely something where he'll improve. But his time is there. That is because of incredible endurance for the event--he does not slow down nearly as much as any normal 400m guys would.
wade has no explosive power
calculo wrote:
Indoor? wrote:It's amazing how short sighted most people are on this board. Kid shows crazy speed for 400 while his primary event is 800. Everyone thinks he should switch to make the World Champs this year. I bet the plan might be to actually develop and become a dominant 800 runner which the 400 speed will undoubtedly help.i think the Kid "robbed" Ereng
Ereng went to deepest darkest africa looking for 800 talent, as that is his interest, albeit he was a jacked-up 400 guy, albeit looked in 1'41-high shape in '88 in a 1-off, & this Kid when he saw moneybags Ereng looking for middle distance runners likely piped-up :
"i a 800 guy, i a 1500 guy !"
"i run fast
give me paid scholarship for 3y to US University & i 800 !!!"
the guy is a 400 guy, albeit he has some quick likely 800 off 600i WR & some impressive recent 800s
it's simply question of US being willing to pay to develop best athletes in the world
from sport point of view i am happy, but economic point of view it doesn't look good, but luckily for rest of world, the $ is the universal currency & US will always be land of milk'n'honey
to the rest of the world, US is simply best thing that has happened to the World in last 200y
Korir may end up being one of the greatest runners in history & it's 100++% because of US
- Totally agree that Ereng's tunnel focused on middle-distance .... no doubt, back in Kenya Manny said I'll run XC, middle distance, whatever to get the scholarship to as you said the "Land of Milk & Honey."
- This is going to be interesting for Coach Laaksonen ... does he pull Manny down to work with sprint coaches Settle and Clark to develop for the 400, 400 IH, and 4 x 400 (All more points) or keep him with Ereng who likely won't let him sprint again? I'd drop Ereng like a bad habit!
- I wouldn't credit the US for 100% of Manny's future success .... talent/genetics + hard work: this guy probably would have found "a way."
Are you kidding me ?
Had the Kid seen a sprint coach before 44.67 ?
( & no, back in Kenya, he wouda been back at buffalo-herding )
- No, I'm not kidding .... UTEP Head Coach is at an inflection point. Will Manny be a sprinter/hurdler, 800 meter runner or both?
* Way more points in the sprints ... Manny's been miscast as a middle-distance runner by Ereng.
Wins Conference USA is 44.53
Wins by almost a second. Finals 1 Emmanuel Korir FR UTEP 44.53 10 2 Emmanuel Dasor SR Western Kentucky 45.43 8 3 Ventavius Sears SR Western Kentucky 45.55 6 4 Va-Sheku Sheriff SO UTSA 45.72 5 5 Jayon Woodard FR Charlotte 46.88 4
I vtf Grrgrg wrote:
Wins Conference USA is 44.53
44.53 would have ranked him 12th in the world last year.
From not ranked to 12th (at age 21)
I would like that type of progression.
Who progresses that way at that age?
Can he go sub 44.00?
I vtf Grrgrg wrote:
Can he go sub 44.00?
Well find out at NCAA, he will need to go sub 44 to beat Kerley at NCAA, unless he only runs the 800.
IF Brazier and Murphy had not gone PRO what an 800 this NCAA could have been.
I vtf Grrgrg wrote:
Wins Conference USA is 44.53
Wow. Give him a couple more years and he might be running 43 and 1:41.
I have to say that watching him made me not as high on his ceiling at this event as just seeing his time. He would need a good deal of work with a sprint coach, in my opinion, to be able to run sub 44. He has an awkward stride for a 400m runner. I'm sold on his 800m potential now, but I think that he will max out in the 400m in 44.20 territory unless his form changes significantly with more strength work. That is awfully good for an 800m guy, though.