You are pretty obsessed. Manangoi is likely 32 based on an article published here from a Letsrun correspondent in Kenya. Maybe not so shocking he is not in his prime. In 2017 when the article was written he ran 3:28.8 in old spikes with a sub-54 first and last lap (middle laps 57 pace). Poorly paced and likely in 3:27 type shape. He won Worlds so the season was a success. Also not on Fancy Bears was he unlike a certain brother of a famous runner.
Why do you put any faith in what Putin's henchmen purported?
And talking about not being on Fancy Bears leak like Manangoi wasn't literally suspended for a whereabouts violation?? Give me a break. Makes no sense that people get such a pass for cheating the testing system like it never happened.
Why is the question as to whether a former World Champion suspended for an anti-doping offense, was actually doping in his career, and making the occasional reference to it, an 'obsession'. Why are you using the type of language and shaming tactics the Jama Aden shills use here against anti-dopers like myself? You appear to be turning into Rekrunner. Is this 'obsession' the same type as your 'obsession' for who the 7th best 5000m runner in Ethiopia is?
So you think running 3:28.8 in old spikes, and not being able to break 3:36 in new spikes is evidence that he was not doping, despite being convicted of an anti-doping offence, and an obsession on my part?
Weird.
And Kenyans are older than their stated ages and everybody knows that when it comes to presenting a case to explain their remarkable decline not based on coming off the juice, but it's racist to accuse junior Kenyan athletes of being age cheats?
And being the brother of a white runner, and appearing on a dubious Russian hack likely authorized by Putin, is more evidence of doping than a Kenyan convicted of an anti-doping offence who runs 8 seconds slower in his comeback, despite posting on Social Media frequently of himself training his butt off and motivated to 'prove everybody wrong'?
So strange.
If nothing else, Manangoi's case is highly relevant to the general question as to whether we should ascribe guilt to athletes suspended for wheareabouts failures. You obviously fall in the Rekrunner/Jama Aden shill camp. Unless you just have a peculiar obsession for Elijah.
I don’t bump super-old threads or bring up stuff unprompted. You definitely are a little fixated on him and for a while had a narrative about Tim Cheruiyot falling apart that never matched up. Now you seem to have laid off Tim/Ouma, which seems like some progress. I don’t think there’s evidence one way or the other on Manangoi from mediocre performances 5 years later. A bunch of athletes can’t sniff their previous form in 2018 (Charlie Grice etc). It’s not always gonna be doping.
I don’t particularly think it’s necessarily “racist” to accuse East Africans on the age stuff. Sometimes it’s pretty clear the athletes literally don’t know. I think you were real angry about Wanyonyi but he quickly moved to the senior ranks so it doesn’t really matter. Ditto Reynold Cheruiyot although he looks young so perhaps you aren’t much bothered by him. It seems like it is being cleaned up in Kenya for what it’s worth. Some guys also are fully grown at age 16…the Czech 17-year-old looked in his mid-20s competing last year.
The Fancy Bears thing doesn’t appear to be a hoax even if we should be bothered by the source of it. You draw huge conclusions off Manangoi which I just don’t. And I’m not sure where this connects to Aden, who I’ve never defended and like most people acknowledge he pushed drugs on his athletes.
Again I think you contribute to the board but you do stretch the facts or make huge assumptions to fit your world-view. Manangoi got whereabouts failures but he didn’t just start getting tested when he got those. You must have some theory why he could beat the tests for 4 prime years and then suddenly felt intentionally missing 2 years was his best course of action.