Elijah Manangoi's coach says the 1500 WR may soon be theirs!! "He is in great shape and ready to bring down the WR"

Did he get an EPO sponsor this year or something?

Would love to see it, but nothing I've seen from him previously indicates to me that he'll break a doped up Moroccan's 1500m record. I've seen him training in the track, and he's very impressive; but doesn't have that last extra gear. Perhaps I'll eat my words...?

rojo wrote:

“Our focus during the off season was to work on conditioning his body and we concentrated most on managing his injury that he got in Rio so that it does not recur again, but now we are mostly concentrating on speed work. He is in great shape and ready to bring down the world record.”

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The fact that they have been focussing on speed work, and April has only just come shows they have no idea how to train, or they know of other non-traditional means of gaining the endurance required to run the 1500m well, let alone a WR!!!!!

“Our focus during the off season was to work on conditioning his body"

You are joking on this special (EPO - works day), right?

BTW OOC tests are regularly carried out by - Jama Aden maybe or Diack dinasty?

26 minutes is pretty slow for 1500m.

He's been eating more spring rolls to help recover from his training to break the WR...

https://youtu.be/v-xZ2xPbBg0?t=39s

Hum..... Asbel Kiprop also said that in the past-----> he never beat that record and he is still losing poorly in championships.

Early season declarations are, well, eraly season declarations..... Reality is always different.

Kiprop became the third man ever to run 3:26, has an Olympic Gold medal and is currently the reigning 3 time World Champion.

Plus he's been ranked #1 in the world in 6 years out of the last 8.

Doesn't have that last extra gear? Maybe you need to watch him train a few more times. Last year at the Police Champions his last gear devastating, and he regular crushed the "chase pack" in the Diamond League 1500m last season. Even Asbel Kiprop admitted that only Elijah has the speed to match his at the end of a race.

Elijah's obstacle is not his speed, but his speed endurance. Last season, he often wilted back into the chase pack while Asbel forged ahead with the rabbits chasing world record pace. It's unclear if that was out of respect or fear of the hot early pace, his lack of confidence could simply be a matter of experience. But it could also be because of a lack of ability; very few athletes are able to hit 1200 meters in 2:48ish and kick it home from there.

Of course it's all speculation, but Elijah would have to have made significant leaps in his training to suddenly go from a Centro-level athlete to a El-G record smasher.

Star wrote:

26 minutes is pretty slow for 1500m.

Yes, 12 mins slower than the average letsrun poster's PR for 5km ...

Rio men's 1500 was a disaster for Kenya and a perfect storm for Matt Centrowitz. Elijah Manangoi injured himself in the semis while in the final, Ronald Kwemoi tripped and fell and Asbel Kiprop ran like a fool. When it's your time, it's your time.

Star wrote:

Kiprop became the third man ever to run 3:26, has an Olympic Gold medal and is currently the reigning 3 time World Champion.

Plus he's been ranked #1 in the world in 6 years out of the last 8.

Don't compare him to Kiprop, whose been only half a second of the WR, and uses a risky championsbip tatic of sitting way back then sprinting all out from 300, which payed off in 2013 and 2015 but not in Rio because the pace was so slow everyone had a kick at the end.

Manangoi is a talented and young enough athlete that its hard to say what's impossible over time. However, I need to see a lot more recent successes to say it is going to happen this year. In my mind, Manangoi has only had one great race, while El Guerrouj had set an indoor world record and was consistently running sub-3:30 as he worked his way down to the WR.

El Keniano wrote:

Rio men's 1500 was a disaster for Kenya and a perfect storm for Matt Centrowitz. Elijah Manangoi injured himself in the semis while in the final, Ronald Kwemoi tripped and fell and Asbel Kiprop ran like a fool. When it's your time, it's your time.

Not so sure it was a perfect storm.

Centro is a wise racer. He was ready and educated, knowing sometimes these races go slow and tactical. He is a top educated scholar of the 1500m's.

A "perfect storm" would have been Centro running from mid or back of lead pack, the race slowing way down after a "normal" first 400 and the centro moving up by 700 out and then running the same speed 600m he did and him catching the leader for the win w 10m or less to go.

It's not like Centro went out slow, someone charged ahead and he had to slow the race down 3 times.

He knew what he was doing and made the race, dominated tactically and Took the win.

Likely his only chance to ever win an Oly 1500, and he was ready to win any kind or speed of race. Additionally he probably has the best confidence and tactical brain of any of the guys in that race.

His comments a few weeks later were spot on; his past had him prepared for anything they brought.

Having run so many tactical races in college, he'd learned how to handle it.

And he's fearless, possible more so than any one in that field...

I've followed his racing progress since he was in high school... He was ready to win that race, fast or tactical.

Yo puedo wrote:

Would love to see it, but nothing I've seen from him previously indicates to me that he'll break a doped up Moroccan's 1500m record. I've seen him training in the track, and he's very impressive; but doesn't have that last extra gear. Perhaps I'll eat my words...?

Manangoi is perhaps the last guy I would say that about:

Steve Cram, announcing, said "Manangoi finished very, very quickly."

Whenever anyone ever starts talking about challenging or breaking a World Record before the season has even started: you know 100% they started a new and heavy course of PEDs.

Guaranteed.

Doubly so if they are not even the current record holder.

Triply so if they're not even anywhere near on times.

He is over three seconds away from the record. If anyone is going to get it this year it will probably be Kiprop. Kiprop is within half a second and with good pacing I believe he has it.

Pokey man wrote:

Yo puedo wrote:

Would love to see it, but nothing I've seen from him previously indicates to me that he'll break a doped up Moroccan's 1500m record. I've seen him training in the track, and he's very impressive; but doesn't have that last extra gear. Perhaps I'll eat my words...?

Manangoi is perhaps the last guy I would say that about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944gkX_OENY

Steve Cram, announcing, said "Manangoi finished very, very quickly."

Great video link. Perhaps I should have better stated it as doesn't have that "next level ability" rather than "next gear". I was not referring to his sprint speed. I was generalizing about his overall ability, and should have been more specific. Definitely a talent, but not one to run

Yo puedo wrote:

Pokey man wrote:

Manangoi is perhaps the last guy I would say that about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944gkX_OENY

Steve Cram, announcing, said "Manangoi finished very, very quickly."

Great video link. Perhaps I should have better stated it as doesn't have that "next level ability" rather than "next gear". I was not referring to his sprint speed. I was generalizing about his overall ability, and should have been more specific. Definitely a talent, but not one to run

Maybe you are right about that. Let's see.