Olympic champ Dalilah Muhammad: "It's insane what America is becoming"

That is absolutely beautiful Gary. Let me follow this through. So, it doesn't actually matter what the religion says, just what the followers do. The real followers, I guess, aren't the ones like the Dalilah, or the hundreds of millions who elected female leaders, etc. It must be the worse ones.

OK, then. Let's look at the list previously mentioned above listing all the "Islamic Terror Attacks". Even if I accept it as it is, it comes out to 1050 killed in the past 30 days. That's for all 1 billion plus muslims. Now, if I take just the ~ 350 million Christians in the US (if you get to pick, I get to pick), and in that time there's been about 1250 people killed just in the US. It is therefore rational to conclude that muslims are far less violent and murderous than Christians.

On a separate note, I don't understand why people like you are so insistent that muslims should be acting like ISIS and not Dalilah? If there's some young muslim kids reading these threads, don't you think you are pushing them the way terrorist want them to be pushed? You sound like a crude echo of al-awlaki to me. You should be heaping praise on people like Dalilah and Sifan and pointing to them as role models. It seems like your hate just won't let you though.

local lib wrote:

Gary, how many practicing Muslims are you friends with? How many do you know personally?

Darn good question and we are still awaiting DG's response. Would love to hear exthrower's reply as well.

I want to know why Liberals protest in support of sharia law Muslims, but hate Republicans.

Seriously ... wrote:

OK, then. Let's look at the list previously mentioned above listing all the "Islamic Terror Attacks". Even if I accept it as it is, it comes out to 1050 killed in the past 30 days. That's for all 1 billion plus muslims. Now, if I take just the ~ 350 million Christians in the US (if you get to pick, I get to pick), and in that time there's been about 1250 people killed just in the US. It is therefore rational to conclude that muslims are far less violent and murderous than Christians.

Nice analysis. There are actually 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, but that even strengthens your argument.

One might also conclude that "Muslims are far less violent than Americans". Perhaps it is the Muslim-majority countries that should be banning Americans and not vice-versa.

I think Gary should find a different website to spread his hate. It's boring.

Stormfront . org might be a good start. He belongs there.

The Single Voice Reason wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

People who believe women are second class citizens are incompatible with our liberal society.

The entire GOP believes women are second class citizens you douchenozzle.

LOL, way to literally to prove Gary's point. Libs treat the GOP the way they should treat the religion of peace and vice versa. Making women wear a burka in 100 degree heat, no big deal. Not mandating free birth control, there's some oppression.

Seriously ... wrote:

If there's some young muslim kids reading these threads, don't you think you are pushing them the way terrorist want them to be pushed?

That's impossible. I thought you just proved that Muslims are more peaceful than Americans. If so, why are you only concerned with driving Muslims to terrorism while freely criticizing Americans?

foo wrote:

Seriously ... wrote:

OK, then. Let's look at the list previously mentioned above listing all the "Islamic Terror Attacks". Even if I accept it as it is, it comes out to 1050 killed in the past 30 days. That's for all 1 billion plus muslims. Now, if I take just the ~ 350 million Christians in the US (if you get to pick, I get to pick), and in that time there's been about 1250 people killed just in the US. It is therefore rational to conclude that muslims are far less violent and murderous than Christians.

Nice analysis. There are actually 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, but that even strengthens your argument.

One might also conclude that "Muslims are far less violent than Americans". Perhaps it is the Muslim-majority countries that should be banning Americans and not vice-versa.

0/10 no one believes you're that dumb

Delilah was not forced to wear a Burka. Many Christians and Jews have issues with birth control too.

FitzyXC wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

... and the people who point all this out are not "bigots". They are responsible citizens.

But the people who think those behaviors are representative of EVERYONE WHO IS EVEN VAGUELY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT RELIGION are irresponsibly paranoid.

Freedom of religion my friend. It's right there in your favorite government document.

Everyone? That's a dishonest twisting of the argument. Nobody said everyone.

Slam dunk .

Delilah can go from Mt Vernon to Mt Ararat.

Good luck.

local lib wrote:

Gary, how many practicing Muslims are you friends with? How many do you know personally?

Bumping, because of genuine curiosity. It would seem based on your views you don't have any in your circle and you certainly don't seem interested in befriending any.

Was hoping someone would post this

Shapiro = GOAT wrote:

Was hoping someone would post this

In the video (above), Shapiro explains that there are approximately 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, then breaks down the radical Muslim populations of 15 countries based on Pew research polling. He defines radicalization as being a broader category than just the extremists actively carrying out terrorism; radicals are those in favor of such things as Sharia Law, honor killings, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc, says Shapiro.

Oh right, he redefines 'radicalization' in a way that is poorly defined and he doesn't seem to understand. It's easy to prove anything if you have an idea first, a huge bias and then twist things until they fit to what you want. Being an orthodox Jew doesn't give him much of an objective starting point.

Here's the first example, he chose Sharia as something that makes someone a radical. Pretty much every Muslim follows and agrees with some part of Sharia law. Some of it is in the Qur'an, but it is not defined in any one place wholly.

The issue is he doesn't fully understand or care to be specific (a deliberate move) about what this really means. Supporting Sharia law in a general sense is not radical. Sharia law governs lots of things, Islamophobes just pick out examples of brutality and feel that that is what Sharia law means to them.

To the people polled, to ordinary Muslims all over the world, Sharia governs the fair terms for borrowing money, for divorce settlements, wills etc. It is regularly used to settle legal, business and family disputes. As is Jewish law.

He also states that people that believe the US or Israel are to blame for 9/11 are counted as radicalized and included in his poll. Why? That statement as a concept is so open to interpretation.

Israel and Palestine have been at war for many years. Both sides commit atrocities against one another daily. Why are anti-Israeli views included in his signs of radical Islam? Is an Israeli-Jew a radical Jew? A Palestinian Muslim likely has had friends, family, property destroyed by Israeli air strikes. Should Palestinians and Muslims abroad support these actions?

This is the perfect straw-man argument. Redefines what being a radical is and then uses that to imply all these people support terrorism. Sharia is not terrorism. Anti-Israeli views are not terrorism.

Ad hominem always reveals the weaker in the argument.

What a moran wrote:

I think Gary should find a different website to spread his hate. It's boring.

Stormfront . org might be a good start. He belongs there.

Further to my previous post, he chooses honor killings as an example of radicalization.

This again shows a complete lack of knowledge whatsoever about the country he is talking about (Bangladesh) and Islam. Bangladesh and India have different major religions, yet honor killings are unfortunately a problem both countries face. This is due to culture. There is nothing about killing your daughter for not marrying the right guy in the Qu'ran.

This extreme family loyalty exhibited in that part of the world is down to generations of backwards culture. It is cross-religion.

However Mr Shapiro decides that support for honor killings = radical Islam.

thetkhet wrote:

A small but significant minority of muslims are terrible disgusting human beings. they can't be dissuaded, they can't be loved, we can't open our arms to them and sing kumbaya and think everything is going to be merry. these people are sub-human as far as anybody with a brain is concerned, and must be eradicated. It's really that simple. Everything else is irrelevant. Sure, there will be collateral damage, such is life. But that is no excuse to allow this filth to exist. the first people muslims target are the beta liberals. these ppl make ideal targets because they're feeling-oriented and easily deceived. the muslims know this and will blow them up first, you can count on that!

A small but significant minority of literally any large group of people are terrible human beings.

Maybe we should just lock ourselves in our houses and never go outside again.