Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

trump, the eternal victim

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1321105674693128200?s=20

Trollminator wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

A federal judge has denied the DOJ's attempt to intervene in the defamation lawsuit brought against Trump by E. Jean Carroll. She claims that Trump raped her, and also claims to have an article of clothing with the rapist's DNA on it. She is seeking a DNA sample from Trump.

If the DOJ is permitted to intervene, it will effectively end the lawsuit.

This will undoubtedly end up in the Supreme Court.

If he is innocent, why won't Trump just give a DNA sample and put the matter to rest?

https://twitter.com/meiselasb/status/1321100925923020800?s=20

It's actually as a defamation defendant, not as a rape defendant. Carroll couldn't sue Trump for rape, probably due to the Statute of Limitations, but in his denial of her accusation in 2019 he may have defamed her.

Barr is arguing that in denying the rape, Trump was acting in his official capacity as President which, if true, insulates him from liability for defamation. The federal judge has disagreed, but it's sure to go up to the SC.

One of the ironies here is that the Republicans helped to establish some SC precedent with Clinton, which may hurt Trump here (assuming the SC follows the precedent).

johnny99 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

https://twitter.com/AirBossUT5/status/1321089141921271808

BLM is helping Trump in PA. I don't think it was a good idea to riot a week before the election if you're a Dementia Joe voter.

The idea that racial violence, rioting, looting has hurt Biden politically doesn't seem to be true.

On 8/22, Biden led Trump in the RCP average by 4.6 points. Jacob Blake was shot in Kenosha, WI on 8/23, and there was racial violence over the next 5 days or so. On 8/29, Biden led by 3.5 points. On 9/5, Biden led by 5/8.

This election is all about the orange guy, not much else matters.

Yeah...sorry Rigged, but civil unrest hurts the party in power ALWAYS. Your fantasy that this hurts Biden is ridiculous.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

What is your "good authority"?

I know someone who lives there. He says they were big Trump supporters there in 2016 and that now the majority are voting for Biden.

Makes me wonder how much the "white power" golf cart video hurt Trump in The Villages. I'm sure most people there were horrified and don't want to feel like they are part of that.

Fat hurts wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I know someone who lives there. He says they were big Trump supporters there in 2016 and that now the majority are voting for Biden.

Makes me wonder how much the "white power" golf cart video hurt Trump in The Villages. I'm sure most people there were horrified and don't want to feel like they are part of that.

That couldn't have helped. I think his inaction on COVID is not helpful either as is his inaction on showing us his health care plan. Has there ever been a more do-nothing President? In many ways, I'm grateful that he's so lazy. If it weren't for his constant bile and divisiveness and general threat to our Democracy, he might not actually bother me much.

I've had lots of arguments with people on this thread about how the problem with Americans economically is more spending than structural income inequality. I've consistently argued that living standards and incomes are much higher now than they were in the 70s or 80s or 90s. Basically no one here agrees with me - there is a broad consensus that other than the top 10%, everyone is falling backward.

The pandemic is a big economics experiment that has tested many theses. One of them is this one.

As it turns out, if you stop going on expensive vacations, you stop going out to eat, you stop with entertainment...you have a carpload of cash lying around.

Moral: If you want to live like people did in the 70s, you can. On one income. But if you want all the stuff we can afford now, you will be strapped.

Of course it's complex, and government handouts have helped ease the situation. Those are not permanent. But the core idea is: Americans spend too much and that makes them live paycheck to paycheck.

Despite the pandemic’s economic devastation, which has tipped millions of people into unemployment, many American households are in relatively good shape. Since April, consumer savings have increased, credit scores have surged to a record high and household debt has dropped. The billions of dollars that banks set aside at the start of the crisis to cover anticipated losses on loans to customers have been largely untouched. And lending at pawn shops and payday lenders, where business tends to boom during downturns, has been unexpectedly slow.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/business/recession-consumers-savings.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

agip wrote:

I've had lots of arguments with people on this thread about how the problem with Americans economically is more spending than structural income inequality. I've consistently argued that living standards and incomes are much higher now than they were in the 70s or 80s or 90s. Basically no one here agrees with me - there is a broad consensus that other than the top 10%, everyone is falling backward.

Not backward but the gains have been inequitable.

Even the poorest people are living better than the cavemen did.

It doesn't mean they should be ecstatic about their lives.

Your whole point is people should be happy with what they have and not want more even when there is more to be had.

That's straight up un-American.

Trollminator wrote:

trump, the eternal victim

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1321105674693128200?s=20

Reporter: What was inaccurate?

Trump: I thought your demeaner was inaccurate.

How can you have an inaccurate demeaner?

L L wrote:

agip wrote:

I've had lots of arguments with people on this thread about how the problem with Americans economically is more spending than structural income inequality. I've consistently argued that living standards and incomes are much higher now than they were in the 70s or 80s or 90s. Basically no one here agrees with me - there is a broad consensus that other than the top 10%, everyone is falling backward.

Not backward but the gains have been inequitable.

Even the poorest people are living better than the cavemen did.

It doesn't mean they should be ecstatic about their lives.

Your whole point is people should be happy with what they have and not want more even when there is more to be had.

That's straight up un-American.

well you are exaggerating my points.

mostly I want people to stop thinking that wages have declined and living standards have fallen for the bottom c.90%. It's not true, never was true. Just a factual matter.

I also want people to understand that spending is a major part of the problem.

But sure, let's not be satisfied.

Flagpole wrote:

Bad news for Trump in Florida.

I have it on good authority that The Villages in Florida are going for Biden, and as the saying goes, "So goes The Villages, so goes Florida."

334 for Biden.

I live 75 mins from The Villages and know a number of residents. Your good authority is a lot of horsepoop. They'll be some votes changed but not enough to make a severe enough dent in Trump's hold over the over 65 crowd in FL. He's been forced to campaign too hard here and spend too much money here which may make it difficult to win elsewhere but the thought that he's turning around the old white crowd, at least in these parts, is wishful thinking on those who don't want Trump re-elected.

L L wrote:

agip wrote:

I've had lots of arguments with people on this thread about how the problem with Americans economically is more spending than structural income inequality. I've consistently argued that living standards and incomes are much higher now than they were in the 70s or 80s or 90s. Basically no one here agrees with me - there is a broad consensus that other than the top 10%, everyone is falling backward.

Not backward but the gains have been inequitable.

Even the poorest people are living better than the cavemen did.

It doesn't mean they should be ecstatic about their lives.

Your whole point is people should be happy with what they have and not want more even when there is more to be had.

That's straight up un-American.

You may disagree with agip's perspective but calling it un-American is quite the stretch. At least in the good sense of what it means to be American.

Suppressing voting is un-American.

Lying is un-American.

Calling news that you don't like "fake news" is un-American.

Not giving a sh!t about the elderly is un-American.

Mocking the disabled is un-American.

Being anti-science is un-American.

Being afraid to compete against the rest of the world is un-American.

Being scared of minorities is un-American.

But being happy with what you have without envying those who have more? . . . no, not really un-American.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Bad news for Trump in Florida.

I have it on good authority that The Villages in Florida are going for Biden, and as the saying goes, "So goes The Villages, so goes Florida."

334 for Biden.

Nope.

https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/1321090509855666180https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/1321089922753798145

Trump has FL on lock.

KAG2020

If Florida and, in particular The Villages were on lock we wouldn't have seen Trump rallies 5 or 6 times nearby within the last couple of weeks. Clearly the Trump campaign is concerned and spending a ton of money in the state overall.

As usual, your bluster is full of bs.

As much talk as there is of D and R ballots being returned, how is the NPA being counted? That is a big population in Florida. Who has the "lead" at this point is stupid beyond anything you've hitched your wagon to in the past but par for the course.

agip wrote:

4) Trump has made it through his scandals largely because he doesn't hide them. They are out in the open, which tells people in their minds 'well I guess this one is no big deal - he would hide it if it were actually a big deal.'

But he is hiding his tax returns and paid hush money to Clifford and McDougal.

People have become numb about his scandals because so many of them come one after another. And the media attention to one scandal wanes when they have the next scandal to report.

L L wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

trump, the eternal victim

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1321105674693128200?s=20

Reporter: What was inaccurate?

Trump: I thought your demeaner was inaccurate.

How can you have an inaccurate demeaner?

This is an example of what I have been saying for a long time. He has ALWAYS been a moron. He hasn't suddenly lost it...he has ALWAYS been dull.

If your argument is that rampant consumerism has destroyed a lot of lives then I totally agree.

But we can't ignore that wages have not kept up with the rising price of many essentials such as housing, medical care, and education. That is what has put so many people behind.

People spending is not a major problem.

When people spend it is income for others.

We are going to come to the realization that this downturn in spending is going to make this recession real bad.

As far as people wanting more, it's like running.

The first time you broke 5 minutes in the mile you didn't stop training. You wanted to run faster.

And you didn't train to run faster because you were envious of faster runners, you just wanted it for your own sense of accomplishment.

You can look at your personal earnings and professional development the same way.

It's good to want more for your own personal accomplishment. The issue is that the system is set up against most people moving up and in favor of those that already have a lot. That can be fixed.

What did most big corporations do with their major tax cut -

Increase payroll? No

They bought back their stock and consolidated their wealth.

And lobbyists and campaign donors really write the rules and regulations for whatever their money can buy to help themselves.

Americans are doing well. They can do better and they should do whatever they can to attain that.

TTH wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Bad news for Trump in Florida.

I have it on good authority that The Villages in Florida are going for Biden, and as the saying goes, "So goes The Villages, so goes Florida."

334 for Biden.

I live 75 mins from The Villages and know a number of residents. Your good authority is a lot of horsepoop. They'll be some votes changed but not enough to make a severe enough dent in Trump's hold over the over 65 crowd in FL. He's been forced to campaign too hard here and spend too much money here which may make it difficult to win elsewhere but the thought that he's turning around the old white crowd, at least in these parts, is wishful thinking on those who don't want Trump re-elected.

Ok. We'll see. According to the PEW Research, voters over age 65 favor Biden by one point. The only demographic, according to PEW, that supports Trump is white men over age 65.

334 for Biden.