Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

P wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Now I know you have a sense of humour.

My take is that "Make America Great Again!" is not actually a Trumpette. I suspect that his/her posts are all mocking the absurdity of the Trumpettes' "thinking".

It is possible that I am wrong on this and that he/she really is a Trumpette but what he/she posts is so consistently over-the-top nuts that I'm guessing it is all parody.

True, but with many diehard trump postings its often hard to tell the difference between trump thinking and parody.

johnny99 wrote:

Make America Great Again! wrote:

Completely puzzling? We added 2.5 million jobs in a month! No other president could have achieved that. We are winning so bigly!

Obama's job creation record is better than Trump's, so odds are Obama could have added this many jobs if not more. But if Obama was still President, it's doubtful we'd be in as big a hole in the first place.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/07/obamas-last-three-years-of-job-growth-all-beat-trumps-best-year/#1a40f5d06ba6

True and also when you reach the nadir, you can't go anywhere else but up.

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Yes, that's part of the story. Wall Street always gets bailed out. The other part of the story is that interest rates are so low that there is no other decent place to invest. So money finds the stock market.

As for Main Street, congress needs to get to work ASAP. Eviction moratoriums are expiring soon and tens of millions of Americans could be thrown out on the street. If you think the protests are big now, just wait and see what happens if all those people are suddenly homeless.

Man I love doomer economic fan fiction.

It's not fiction. This is backed up by data from the US Census Bureau. Since the pandemic began they have been doing surveys and they have found that close to 25% of respondents said they had little or no confidence that they would be able to make their next rent payment.

Many state-based and city-based eviction moratoriums are expiring. These moratoriums do not forgive rent payments that have been due during the crisis. They just keep people from being evicted right away. When the moratorium ends, all back rent is due.

There is also a federal moratorium that was put in place with the CARES act. That one covers buildings that have a federally backed mortgage. The problem is that most renters have no way of knowing that their building is protected. So they get evicted anyway. That moratorium expires at the end of July.

The House has passed a bill to deal with the looming crisis, but it's far from a sure thing that senate Republicans will go along.

So while it's great news that more people are working again, we still have millions of Americans who are threatened with eviction in the coming months unless congress acts quickly.

Democrat sponsored hoaxes include:

Russia collusion

Ukraine quid pro quo

Coronavirus

Police brutality against blacks

Just to name a few...

democrats hate truths wrote:

Democrat sponsored hoaxes include:

Russia collusion

Ukraine quid pro quo

Coronavirus

Police brutality against blacks

Just to name a few...

I'll have some of what you're smokin'!

Anyway, if you want to read about hoaxes, just go back a page or two for links to real sources that discuss right wing 'hoaxes': voter fraud, Crooked Hillary and Hunter Biden. And that's just the short list.

Conundrum wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

When the POTUS speaks, people listen and he has no natural sense for accuracy, consistency or appropriateness. He really needs to meet with smart people for an hour or so, before he makes public statements.

What an idiot. No matter what the context (and that it's related to the jobs report is totally sick)

that comment about it being a great day everyone just minimizes the tragedy that occurred. People are still in mourning over the brutal killing of Floyd and Trump goes on about what a great day it is for everyone?

I just cannot believe he said that. A level of disrespect and stupidity that has no equal that i know of.

It just shows that Trump is so self-centered that he cannot for a second fathom anything other than goods news for him must be good news for everyone. No perspective.

He needs to be removed and every day i wake up is one day closer to election day.

seattle prattle wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

What an idiot. No matter what the context (and that it's related to the jobs report is totally sick)

that comment about it being a great day everyone just minimizes the tragedy that occurred. People are still in mourning over the brutal killing of Floyd and Trump goes on about what a great day it is for everyone?

I just cannot believe he said that. A level of disrespect and stupidity that has no equal that i know of.

It just shows that Trump is so self-centered that he cannot for a second fathom anything other than goods news for him must be good news for everyone. No perspective.

He needs to be removed and every day i wake up is one day closer to election day.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is basically a hot take from 2016 so I would be careful in assuming people are gonna turn against him for the millionth retarded thing he's said.

Racket wrote:

seattle prattle wrote:

I just cannot believe he said that. A level of disrespect and stupidity that has no equal that i know of.

It just shows that Trump is so self-centered that he cannot for a second fathom anything other than goods news for him must be good news for everyone. No perspective.

He needs to be removed and every day i wake up is one day closer to election day.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is basically a hot take from 2016 so I would be careful in assuming people are gonna turn against him for the millionth retarded thing he's said.

I know and remind myself all the time, but his margins were so small last time and he's alienated so many that were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And i think there are just a good number who are sick of all the adversity and turmoil, and just want a change. Honestly think it won't even be close. The economic downturn was his only hope and that is abysmal and still will be by November, if not worse.

Meh, not really worth explaining it to you. Good luck with your doomer thesis though

seattle prattle wrote:

I know and remind myself all the time, but his margins were so small last time and he's alienated so many that were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And i think there are just a good number who are sick of all the adversity and turmoil, and just want a change. Honestly think it won't even be close. The economic downturn was his only hope and that is abysmal and still will be by November, if not worse.

This, I believe, is false. I believe a 2020 win in the same fashion as his 2016 one is not such a long shot. Even if he loses Michigan and Pennsylvania, he need only hold Wisconsin to win again, all else equal. Looking at the map, I don't see a lot of opportunity to flip other states.

"Democrats will turn out in huge numbers." - look at where Democrats live. There is substantial diminishing return.

Finally, my personal favorite: If you think an unpopular retard who barely won his first election will certainly lose to a way more qualified career civil servant who can put the country back on track, then I'll point you to a certain election that occurred in November of 2004.

okay thanks for a dose of reality

Oh please do explain. I'd love to hear your counter-thesis.

seattle prattle wrote:

Racket wrote:

This, I believe, is false. I believe a 2020 win in the same fashion as his 2016 one is not such a long shot. Even if he loses Michigan and Pennsylvania, he need only hold Wisconsin to win again, all else equal. Looking at the map, I don't see a lot of opportunity to flip other states.

"Democrats will turn out in huge numbers." - look at where Democrats live. There is substantial diminishing return.

Finally, my personal favorite: If you think an unpopular retard who barely won his first election will certainly lose to a way more qualified career civil servant who can put the country back on track, then I'll point you to a certain election that occurred in November of 2004.

okay thanks for a dose of reality

Arizona is looking to be very important this year. Right now it looks quite blue.

The other thing in Biden's favor is the consistency of the polling...it's the same thing every week, give or take a couple points. Biden up 5-8 points. HRC was more of an up and down pattern that just happened to go down on election day. There is nothing in the pattern of these polls that suggests trump could win another fluky election at the last minute. Seems like minds have been made up.

Hard for me to believe Esper is going to survive in his job long.

First he reversed Trump's order to send US troops home.

Now he is disarming troops without checking with Trump first.

Esper had his head rocked back by the furious retired generals...he is now trying to reestablish control of the DoD, apart from the president. I can't seen Trump allowing this. Expect esper to be fired by tweet soon.

"The Pentagon has told the District of Columbia National Guard and guardsmen from other states who have arrived in the nation’s capital as backup to not use firearms or ammunition, a sign of de-escalation in the federal response to protests in the city after the killing of George Floyd, according to officials familiar with the decision.

The Department of Defense, led by Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper, appears to have made the decision without consulting the White House, where President Trump has ordered a militarized show of force on the streets of Washington D.C. since demonstrations in the city were punctured by an episode of looting on Sunday. Trump specifically had encouraged the National Guard to be armed."

agip wrote:

seattle prattle wrote:

okay thanks for a dose of reality

Arizona is looking to be very important this year. Right now it looks quite blue.

The other thing in Biden's favor is the consistency of the polling...it's the same thing every week, give or take a couple points. Biden up 5-8 points. HRC was more of an up and down pattern that just happened to go down on election day. There is nothing in the pattern of these polls that suggests trump could win another fluky election at the last minute. Seems like minds have been made up.

All I'm saying is, don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Fat hurts wrote:

Racket wrote:

Meh, not really worth explaining it to you. Good luck with your doomer thesis though

Oh please do explain. I'd love to hear your counter-thesis.

No thanks. You're free to research a counter-argument on your own though. You might learn something about REITs and economics of rent-seeking in the process.

From Trump's speech this morning:

"People are -- people are driving. I may have to buy one of those things; drive around town. Maybe I'll drive back to New York with our first lady in a trailer."

Here are some more quotes:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/05/politics/donald-trump-friday-economy-trump-press-conference/index.html

Racket wrote:

This, I believe, is false. I believe a 2020 win in the same fashion as his 2016 one is not such a long shot. Even if he loses Michigan and Pennsylvania, he need only hold Wisconsin to win again, all else equal. Looking at the map, I don't see a lot of opportunity to flip other states.

270towin has Biden leading the polls in Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, and Arizona, all of whom went for Trump in 2016 in addition to the three name and there's others (Ohio, Iowa, Texas, Utah) that are within the polling margins. That's not to say Trump as no chance, but either he squeaks out a win by the narrowest of margins or he's on the wrong end of a landslide.

Optics aside, there were only 10 National Guardsmen in DC who had firearms and ammunition, and they were on the Mall, not in Lafayette Square. So it doesn't change much of anything.