Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

well........this wrote:

You gonna get what you deserve! There will be some scared politicians.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) signed a new law on Wednesday that gives the state the authority to prosecute those accused of crimes even if they have a presidential pardon.

The bill effectively closes a double jeopardy loophole that usually prevents individuals charged on the federal level from being prosecuted by a state for the same offense. The measure was written to specifically target former Trump administration officials who may receive a pardon, an idea the president has regularly suggested for aides who have run afoul of the law.

“No one is above the law and New York will not turn a blind eye to criminality, no matter who seeks to protect them,” Cuomo said in a statement Wednesday. “The closure of this egregious loophole gives prosecutors the ability to stand up against any abuse of power, and helps ensure that no politically motivated, self-serving action is sanctioned under law.

The law goes into effect immediately and applies to all past and future offenses. New York officials will be able to prosecute any pardoned individual who served in the executive branch, worked for a president’s election or transition team or for a for-profit or nonprofit group controlled by a president.

Yeah, about that... wrote:

Yavapai wrote:

. . . a lot of Trump supporters won't take too kindly to him saying bad things about General Mattis.

I agree with much of your post, but not this part.

Most Trumpistas--that is, a solid majority--couldn't tell you exactly who General Mattis (or was) . . . and in any case Mattis was then and Trump is now. (It's instructive to look back in this thread a year, say, and see what we were talking about then. In this headline-a-day administration, those scandals are now entirely forgotten--and so Syria will be, in twelve months' time.)

A majority of Americans, and not just Trumpeters, honestly care very little about Syria (which they couldn't find on a map) or the Kurds. They might care a bit more if the Kurds were Christian, but most are Muslim--and they're all kinda brown in any case. So to most Americans the Kurds aren't real: They're some people "over there," and we're concerned about here.

As has been previously noted in this thread, most of the GOP politicians who are reaming President Trump about his Syria decisions are absolutely in lockstep with him on domestic policies, and those are the policies that their voters overwhelmingly focus on. The GOP pols' Syria "outrage" helps them hedge their bets, in case things really go south for the President; but above all they want to be re-elected, and when push comes to shove they will remain behind Trump 100%: Lukewarm Trump support could cost them in primaries.

Sally Vix wrote:

well........this wrote:

You gonna get what you deserve! There will be some scared politicians.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) signed a new law on Wednesday that gives the state the authority to prosecute those accused of crimes even if they have a presidential pardon.

The bill effectively closes a double jeopardy loophole that usually prevents individuals charged on the federal level from being prosecuted by a state for the same offense. The measure was written to specifically target former Trump administration officials who may receive a pardon, an idea the president has regularly suggested for aides who have run afoul of the law.

“No one is above the law and New York will not turn a blind eye to criminality, no matter who seeks to protect them,” Cuomo said in a statement Wednesday. “The closure of this egregious loophole gives prosecutors the ability to stand up against any abuse of power, and helps ensure that no politically motivated, self-serving action is sanctioned under law.

The law goes into effect immediately and applies to all past and future offenses. New York officials will be able to prosecute any pardoned individual who served in the executive branch, worked for a president’s election or transition team or for a for-profit or nonprofit group controlled by a president.

Cuomo is definitely an idiot. He obviously did not think this through. First, to really attempt to punish people retroactively. That is absurd. But, second, and much more importantly, there is something called the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution. When state laws conflict with federal laws, the federal law supersedes the state law. Federal laws are the "Supreme law of the land." So long as the federal law is valid (constitutional), the state law is inferior to the federal law.

Sally Vix wrote:

well........this wrote:

You gonna get what you deserve! There will be some scared politicians.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) signed a new law on Wednesday that gives the state the authority to prosecute those accused of crimes even if they have a presidential pardon.

The bill effectively closes a double jeopardy loophole that usually prevents individuals charged on the federal level from being prosecuted by a state for the same offense. The measure was written to specifically target former Trump administration officials who may receive a pardon, an idea the president has regularly suggested for aides who have run afoul of the law.

“No one is above the law and New York will not turn a blind eye to criminality, no matter who seeks to protect them,” Cuomo said in a statement Wednesday. “The closure of this egregious loophole gives prosecutors the ability to stand up against any abuse of power, and helps ensure that no politically motivated, self-serving action is sanctioned under law.

The law goes into effect immediately and applies to all past and future offenses. New York officials will be able to prosecute any pardoned individual who served in the executive branch, worked for a president’s election or transition team or for a for-profit or nonprofit group controlled by a president.

Cuomo is definitely an idiot. He obviously did not think this through. First, to really attempt to punish people retroactively. That is absurd. But, second, and much more importantly, there is something called the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution. When state laws conflict with federal laws, the federal law supersedes the state law. Federal laws are the "Supreme law of the land." So long as the federal law is valid (constitutional), the state law is inferior to the federal law.