That would be AWESOME!!!!!
That would be AWESOME!!!!!
I've slept in my car in the parking lot of a hotel then gone into the hotel in the morning and ate the free breakfast.
I camped the night before a big race to save money. Didn't stop me from setting a PR.
messi wrote:
No one has discussed car camping on principle because lodging tax is 22% and regular sales tax on retail items is only 8%.
Can we discus that ie. the variance.
It should be clear by now that no one has discussed it (other than you, multiple times) because no one (other than you) cares enough to alter their behavior based on some bizarre principle.
It sounds like you'd rather stay in a hotel that charged $100 a night with no tax, rather than an identical hotel that charged $50 plus $11 in tax, just out of principle. Most of us don't share that particular fixation.
ezekiel k wrote:
messi wrote:
No one has discussed car camping on principle because lodging tax is 22% and regular sales tax on retail items is only 8%.
Can we discus that ie. the variance.
It should be clear by now that no one has discussed it (other than you, multiple times) because no one (other than you) cares enough to alter their behavior based on some bizarre principle.
It sounds like you'd rather stay in a hotel that charged $100 a night with no tax, rather than an identical hotel that charged $50 plus $11 in tax, just out of principle. Most of us don't share that particular fixation.
Yes. That is what I'd rather do.
messi wrote:
No one has discussed car camping on principle because lodging tax is 22% and regular sales tax on retail items is only 8%.
Can we discus that ie. the variance.
Fine. Be uncomfortable on principle.
No.
No one has ever ever been willing to pay for a room but chose to sleep in their car to avoid the lodging tax.
Hotels are the ones that should be more interested in fighting this tax since it hurts their bottom line and it is their every day business.
Most people that travel often, get reimbursed by their companies, so they don’t care about the tax. Their companies have bigger things to focus on than lobbying against th see taxes.
People don’t vacation often often to invest time on fighting this.
messi wrote:
ezekiel k wrote:
It should be clear by now that no one has discussed it (other than you, multiple times) because no one (other than you) cares enough to alter their behavior based on some bizarre principle.
It sounds like you'd rather stay in a hotel that charged $100 a night with no tax, rather than an identical hotel that charged $50 plus $11 in tax, just out of principle. Most of us don't share that particular fixation.
Yes. That is what I'd rather do.
What do you do when you fly somewhere and then stay in a hotel? Rent a car to avoid the lodging tax? Of course car rentals also charge additional tax and fees beyond sales tax. Do you refuse to pay all additional, special taxes, or only lodging tax?
No, not because of the tax. More like the whole total cost. Mainly it was because I was driving straight through to a long distance destination. I'd pull over at a rest area and sleep there for 5-6 hours and then continue on.
messi wrote:
Fairly obvious question. Particularly since lodging tax is way higher than regular sales tax.
Is it unfair that lodging tax is way higher than standard sales tax?
Tinder is better...
Star wrote:
Hotels are the ones that should be more interested in fighting this tax since it hurts their bottom line and it is their every day business.
Most people that travel often, get reimbursed by their companies, so they don’t care about the tax. Their companies have bigger things to focus on than lobbying against th see taxes.
People don’t vacation often often to invest time on fighting this.
Hotels do not like the tax, but that tax along with car rental taxes are the easiest to pass because people that area are not likely to be impacted.
When AirBnB started, a big way to save money was avoiding this tax. Now more and more places are collecting that tax.
I wonder how much Uber/Lyft has negatively affected the rental car market. Unless I have to drive a ways from the airport to my final location, I am not renting a car.
I've slept in my car many times over the years without incident.
I slept in my car about 10 or 11 times during a two week drive from Georgia to Alaska. I was driving a Uhaul alone so I had plenty of space in the cab. Only stayed in a hotel every once in a while when I needed a shower.
Slept in my car in the closest parking space to the start line at the Gate River Run about 15 years ago. Nice to be able to relax in my car with Porta johns only a very short distance away. Wasn't taking the race too seriously so I wasn't worried about a good night sleep.
I've found the safest places to sleep are where the truckers sleep. If there are a bunch of 18 - wheelers parked at a particular rest stop then pull in next to them and go to sleep worry free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ben_Rhoadesdone it many times wrote:
I've found the safest places to sleep are where the truckers sleep. If there are a bunch of 18 - wheelers parked at a particular rest stop then pull in next to them and go to sleep worry free.
Bruce Mendenhall wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ben_Rhoadesdone it many times wrote:
I've found the safest places to sleep are where the truckers sleep. If there are a bunch of 18 - wheelers parked at a particular rest stop then pull in next to them and go to sleep worry free.
Nope, That guy don't look like a cereal killer.
No sirree.
As for truck stops, they're really noisy, trucks coming and going and their reefer units and generators running, guys walking around, and the truck stop queens banging on the window, asking if you wanna date.
Star wrote:
Hotels are the ones that should be more interested in fighting this tax since it hurts their bottom line and it is their every day business.
Most people that travel often, get reimbursed by their companies, so they don’t care about the tax. Their companies have bigger things to focus on than lobbying against th see taxes.
People don’t vacation often often to invest time on fighting this.
How does it hurt the hotel's bottom line when you admit that business travelers don't care and people don't vacation enough to care? Or are you saying that hotels would raise the rates of it wasn't for the tax? In other words the tax benefits the broader community at the expense of a little less money in the hands of the few.
another question wrote:
messi wrote:
Yes. That is what I'd rather do.
What do you do when you fly somewhere and then stay in a hotel? Rent a car to avoid the lodging tax? Of course car rentals also charge additional tax and fees beyond sales tax. Do you refuse to pay all additional, special taxes, or only lodging tax?
You are right that rental car taxes are higher than lodging taxes. If you slept in your rental car you would at least be reducing the extortion. Remember, sales tax on bananas at Piggly Wiggly is only 8%.
huh????? wrote:
Why the f*ck do you care what part of the total cost is tax vs room charge? The cost of the room is what you have to pay. You are a moron.
You also have to pay the taxes.
Wrong again ... wrote:
huh????? wrote:
Why the f*ck do you care what part of the total cost is tax vs room charge? The cost of the room is what you have to pay. You are a moron.
You also have to pay the taxes.
He was clearly referring to the total cost brainiac.
A van is better than a car.
At Grandma's you can pay $600 for the 2person 2night minimum at the hotels,
or $6 parking at the DECC parking lot.
Walmart has free overnight parking.
So do casinos and some hospitals.
By planning ahead you could cross the country by sleeping in certain parking lots.