2 1/2 hours @ 10% grade?!?

wow i thought this was gonna be about a tenth grader running 2 hours and 30 min for the marathon.I am very disappointed

10 minute miles would be a pretty good pace so 15 miles with almost 8,000 ft elevation gain. Did the article mention her pace? Even 11 minute miles would be over 13 miles with 7200 ft elevation gain.

I do an hour a week. wrote:

10 minute miles would be a pretty good pace so 15 miles with almost 8,000 ft elevation gain. Did the article mention her pace? Even 11 minute miles would be over 13 miles with 7200 ft elevation gain.

You seem to be speaking her language (i.e. you've translated the workout into elevation gain) so is this a reasonably hard workout or is this way out there? The info was taken from the link on the homepage about the US women running in NY this Sunday...http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/11/2016-tcs-nyc-marathon-u-s-womens-preview-molly-huddle-makes-long-awaited-marathon-debut-olympic-champ-gwen-jorgensen/

i'd bang her

I think we should expect Annie to move up to ultras after NYC. She's already done some mountain races, and once you get a taste of the mountains, I bet she sticks to trails.

As for 2.5hr at 10%, that's pretty crazy. The math I use says that a 6:35 mile flat would be about 9:00 at 10% grade on a treadmill. So 2.5 hours would be 16.67 miles climbing 8800 ft. That's a TON of climbing, even for ultra runners.

I'm gonna guess that the 10% is wrong.

I've done 15 percent on a Landice treadmill for an hour.

My guess is that Annie Bersagel's 10 percent for 2 1/2 hours is correct, and the pace is whatever pace she managed to do.

2,5 hours on a treadmill.

That sounds like a lot of fun!

Abhorrent stench wrote:

2,5 hours on a treadmill.

That sounds like a lot of fun!

No doubt her ability to do a workout like that is part of the reason she is who she is.

So no consensus yet as to whether this is plausible or not? What do the few ultra runners still left hanging around here think? Does she beat Sara Hall, Gwen Jorgensen et.al......based on this killer workout?

kmaclam wrote:

So no consensus yet as to whether this is plausible or not?

Of course it is plausible.

Why do you think that it wouldn't be?

Pikes Peak Ascent is 11% for 13.3 miles; only a handful or break 2:30 each year on the ascent, plus a few more doing the round trip.

upper montane wrote:

Pikes Peak Ascent is 11% for 13.3 miles; only a handful or break 2:30 each year on the ascent, plus a few more doing the round trip.

Rational thinking wrote:

kmaclam wrote:

So no consensus yet as to whether this is plausible or not?

Of course it is plausible.

Why do you think that it wouldn't be?

.........because you & I and a kilo of crack couldn't pull this workout off even as a relay team.

I could do this easily, while you're wallowing in your bucket of drugs.

P.S. You're a loser.

kmaclam wrote:

[quote]I do an hour a week. wrote:

10 minute miles would be a pretty good pace so 15 miles with almost 8,000 ft elevation gain. Did the article mention her pace? Even 11 minute miles would be over 13 miles with 7200 ft elevation gain.

You seem to be speaking her language (i.e. you've translated the workout into elevation gain) so is this a reasonably hard workout or is this way out there?

The hardness of the workout would be dependent on the pace. You could run this at an easy pace and it wouldn't be that difficult in comparison to any other 2.5 hour run. You get used to the grade pretty quickly.

It was 10 % decline.

Reading about different individuals training leading up to a race such as NYC tomorrow, makes it a more compelling watch in my opinion. You have 'traditional' racers like Huddle, Conley & Hall while there is also a triathlete in Gwen & then Bersagel doing 2 1/2 hour uphill treadmill runs.

Maybe it's time for someone to point out the obvious thing here: 10% incline on a treadmill is not the same thing as running up an actual hill with 10% grade.

(It's easier)

Inclines like this have given me great endurance & strength, but they do blunt my speed. Thus I need to alternate them with repetitions on the flats or long downhills to keep in touch with fast pace. I love the feeling of running fast long downhills.