IF it's not all made up she is only going to get away with that for so long. If she's lying , there will be the emails plus proof she lied about them being made up.
IF it's not all made up she is only going to get away with that for so long. If she's lying , there will be the emails plus proof she lied about them being made up.
She'll already be president.
Hillary is all about grabbing power. I guarantee you she will expand the power of executive orders. And not in a good way.
fdfasdfsadf wrote:
She'll already be president.
Hillary is all about grabbing power. I guarantee you she will expand the power of executive orders. And not in a good way.
Worse than Obama? You mean like Bush or Reagan bad?
fdfasdfsadf wrote:
She'll already be president.
Hillary is all about grabbing power. I guarantee you she will expand the power of executive orders. And not in a good way.
Are you thinking trump would be better?
Conundrum wrote:
fdfasdfsadf wrote:She'll already be president.
Hillary is all about grabbing power. I guarantee you she will expand the power of executive orders. And not in a good way.
Are you thinking trump would be better?
Trump will be much better than Clinton. The rules don't apply to her and the Wikileaks are exposing behind the curtain. Trump will be held accountable for every little thing he does.
These Podesta emails have been damaging but I bet if they released her e-mails she'd be done.
Conundrum wrote:
Are you thinking trump would be better?
Yes? Trump's policies would actually help citizens here. His stances on international relations with countries like Russia and North Korea are far less inflammatory than the Democrats' stances. Trump hasn't actually done anything careless, dangerous, or deceitful while in the government.
The link you provided doesn't support your claim. I'm shocked.
Conundrum wrote:
fdfasdfsadf wrote:She'll already be president.
Hillary is all about grabbing power. I guarantee you she will expand the power of executive orders. And not in a good way.
Are you thinking trump would be better?
Yikes, sorry for that jumbled sentence.
Uhhh... it's a REALLY tough call for me. I can't help reframing the question into "Who will be worse?" because they are frankly terrible candidates.
I think Trump is a terrible person, but I don't think his (admittedly sparse) policy proposals are horrific. Aside from his tax cut proposal, I think there's value in some of his policies. But most importantly, he is so despised in both Dem and Rep circles that he will largely be ineffective as president, which is likely the best outcome for the next 4 years.
Because Hillary, while not quite as terrible a person, is corrupt. And she has a severe agenda that will be harmful in the long run. And she will be more successful in accomplishing her goals. She WILL expand the powers of the president. She will tip the Supreme Court to the left (a conservative Court and liberal president is the ideal combo, IMHO). She will attack gun control in an irrational manner. She will divide the country deeper than Obama has (I like Obama okay, but he has pushed the wedge deeper between the right and left, Hillary will continue that trend). And she will gouge the middle class to pay for a more socialistic government.
I'm voting 3rd party. My state will choose Trump by a large margin, and I'd like to cast a vote of displeasure towards the major party candidates.
At least Hillary will get washed out of the system in 4 years. Right? Please? Can the Republican party right itself in that period?
Independant anylsis has suggested Trumps tax plan will cost Americans 11 million jobs, while Hillary's will grow 2 million. Hell, even if Hillary's doesn't grow zero, it's still better than Trumps idiocy trickle down piss economics. He has no idea that a business is not even close to a global economy.
Isn't Jullian Assange's hacking and releasing information, illegal?
Do we have a duty to stop illegal behavior?
Conundrum wrote:
Isn't Jullian Assange's hacking and releasing information, illegal?
Do we have a duty to stop illegal behavior?
Illegal doesn't mean unethical. When law and ethics contradict, I'll always side with ethics.
sarcasmyes? wrote:
Independant anylsis has suggested Trumps tax plan will cost Americans 11 million jobs, while Hillary's will grow 2 million. Hell, even if Hillary's doesn't grow zero, it's still better than Trumps idiocy trickle down piss economics. He has no idea that a business is not even close to a global economy.
His tax plan is garbage, though I doubt it will be so costly. I'm skeptical of these "independent" economists, just as I'm skeptical of "non-partisan" journalists. There is no non-partisan reporting (or analysis) in this election.
Regardless, I doubt he'd get support from Congress. And the president can't issue tax breaks without Congress, correct?
Reg Fields wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Are you thinking trump would be better?
Trump will be much better than Clinton. The rules don't apply to her and the Wikileaks are exposing behind the curtain. Trump will be held accountable for every little thing he does.
These Podesta emails have been damaging but I bet if they released her e-mails she'd be done.
Based on the comments made by Trump, I think he would definitely be more likely to try and expand executive orders. There are a numbe rof things he claims that he is going to do (including actions that he claims will result in jailing Hillary) for which he has no authorization.
Plus just look at his personality. Who is more power hungry both in speech and behavior?
Conundrum wrote:
Reg Fields wrote:Trump will be much better than Clinton. The rules don't apply to her and the Wikileaks are exposing behind the curtain. Trump will be held accountable for every little thing he does.
These Podesta emails have been damaging but I bet if they released her e-mails she'd be done.
Based on the comments made by Trump, I think he would definitely be more likely to try and expand executive orders. There are a numbe rof things he claims that he is going to do (including actions that he claims will result in jailing Hillary) for which he has no authorization.
Plus just look at his personality. Who is more power hungry both in speech and behavior?
To me actions speak louder than words. On multiple occasions Hillary has demonstrated that she feels like she's above the law.
Trump saying he'd pursue jailing Hillary is a legitimate and legal argument because she showed no regard for classified documents and put people's lives than danger. She then had documents destroyed when the FBI supeonaed them. And now it shows the FBI investigation was compromised. IMO she should be in jail for what she did.
Reg Fields wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Based on the comments made by Trump, I think he would definitely be more likely to try and expand executive orders. There are a numbe rof things he claims that he is going to do (including actions that he claims will result in jailing Hillary) for which he has no authorization.
Plus just look at his personality. Who is more power hungry both in speech and behavior?
To me actions speak louder than words. On multiple occasions Hillary has demonstrated that she feels like she's above the law.
Trump saying he'd pursue jailing Hillary is a legitimate and legal argument because she showed no regard for classified documents and put people's lives than danger. She then had documents destroyed when the FBI supeonaed them. And now it shows the FBI investigation was compromised. IMO she should be in jail for what she did.
Easy now, you're letting too many facts get in the way of a good trump bashing.
Conundrum wrote:
Plus just look at his personality. Who is more power hungry both in speech and behavior?
I agree with Reggie. I'm not sure of Trump's motives to become president, but I have no doubt about Hillary's. She is power hungry to the extreme. It's the reason she stayed with Bill, became Senator, and convinced Obama to make her SOS. She leveraged each of these as a play to become president. This has always been the end game for her.
fdfasdfsadf wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Plus just look at his personality. Who is more power hungry both in speech and behavior?
I agree with Reggie. I'm not sure of Trump's motives to become president, but I have no doubt about Hillary's. She is power hungry to the extreme. It's the reason she stayed with Bill, became Senator, and convinced Obama to make her SOS. She leveraged each of these as a play to become president. This has always been the end game for her.
Yeah, Trump was interviewed a couple of decades ago and said that he couldn't see himself running for President. I think he knew even then the attacks that he would come under from the establishment/mainstream media if he didn't toe the line like a good puppet.
Trump was born wealthy. Hillary used her political connections to make a fortune. Trump is a major narcissist. Hillary is a sociopath of the highest order.
by far less inflammatory, you mean advocating getting nukes to Japan and other countries?
fdfasdfsadf wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Isn't Jullian Assange's hacking and releasing information, illegal?
Do we have a duty to stop illegal behavior?
Illegal doesn't mean unethical. When law and ethics contradict, I'll always side with ethics.
another person's astute opinion:
There is no getting around it: Donald Trump is cheering on a Russian attempt to influence our election through a crime reminiscent of Watergate but on a more massive scale," said Clinton spokesman Glen Caplin. "It's time for Donald Trump to condemn this intrusion by the Kremlin and tell voters what did his campaign know and when did they know it."
odie negro wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Are you thinking trump would be better?
Yes? Trump's policies would actually help citizens here. His stances on international relations with countries like Russia and North Korea are far less inflammatory than the Democrats' stances. Trump hasn't actually done anything careless, dangerous, or deceitful while in the government.
Which is quite impressive when you consider his long and distinguished career in the government.