Kiprop and Farah get trashed in Monaco

Shit wat a joggfest. Froome could probably out-run them both

Farah was alight I guess but Kiprop went home DEVESTATED!!!!!

rojo wrote:

Kwemoi went from 7th to 1st!!! on the last lap. He was behind Farah and got the win.

anyone timed Kwemoi's last last 100 ?

it looked incredible !

Red Blood Cells wrote:

There are three faster which puts him tied for fourth. Kiprop is not the only one who is faster. Kiprop, Mahkloufi, and Iguider are faster. And Kwemoi has the same PR.

Would you say Farah would be the favorite to win gold in the 1500 at Rio? I doubt it.

Would you say Farah is the favorite to repeat as gold medalist in the 5k and 10k? If you're smart you would.

Now what would you say his best event is? 5K or 10K?

No, you are wrong. You're splitting hairs. What I said was true and accurate. Farah has the 2nd or 3rd fastest 1500m PR. The difference between 4th and 2nd best PRs is a few 100ths of a second. Those times are practically identical for the point I am making. It is noise.

The rest of your post is irrelevant. No one said anything about which event he is the favorite for so I don't know why you brought that up. We are also not talking about whether the 5k or the 10k is his best event. I don't even know why you are asking that. It's basic math - If the 1500m is his best event, then his 5k ability MUST be better than his 10k ability.

If Mo could have run 3:27 low last year, according to ventolin, then why didn't he win this one?

HardLoper wrote:

If he wanted to compete against the best he'd run the 100 meters. He is most successful at 5k/10k therefore it's his best event.

Is this a serious post? Sometimes I can't tell if you're a troll or not.

ukuv wrote:

Red Blood Cells wrote:

Farah isn't even a 1500 runner. This was a really good sharpening workout for him.

Farah is a 1500m runner. It is his best event. He has the 2nd or 3rd best PR at this distance. Only Kiprop is faster.

What kind of retarded poster is this? Farah is barely even top 10. He is a helluva long way from top 3.

calculo wrote:

3'24-low

anytime over 3 or 4 golds in olympic 1500

Just to show you how ridiculous that statement is:

The 1500m has been contested 27 times at Olympic games.

There are only five runners who have won two Olympic medals in this event, nobody has won three. Kipchoge Keino has one gold and one silver. Hicham El Guerrouj has one gold and one silver. Sebastian Coe has two golds, the only one to have won the event more than once.

To win three golds in a middle distance race would be phenomenal, and to win four would be completely incredible.

Don't get me wrong, 3:24 low is also incredible. But El Guerrouj improved the WR by 1.4 seconds, and only 10 years earlier, in the pre-EPO-era, it was 3.5 seconds slower. Once doping is back to the 1990s efficiency, the WR will again be improved, and it's only a matter of time and luck until 3:.24 low.

However, nobody will ever win 4 Olympic golds in the mens 1500m.

It makes no sense to me why people would rather have a fast time than an Olympic Gold. Or any medal for that matter. At the end of the day time means nothing if you don't perform when it counts. Great example; Alan Webb.

Being the favorite clearly makes that an athlete's best event(s). Farah was fourth in the race he set his PR at 1500M. He has not been worse than second at a 5K-10K championship since he was seventh at Worlds in 2009.

I'm positive if you asked Farah what his best event is he would not say 1500.

Red Blood Cells wrote:

This was a really good sharpening workout for him.

Stop calling races workouts. he is not a 1500 runner but this was not a workout... It was a race.

jjj wrote:If Mo could have run 3:27 low last year, according to ventolin, then why didn't he win this one?

i believe that guy said mo was "peaked"

also, the wrecking that ole body took desperately trying to win the cardiff 1/2M looks to have permanently finished his speed as shown by fellow-camper in Rupp in 5k trials

mo looked capable of ~ 7'26/7'27 in birmingham if 0 wind & evenly drafted to 2k & that slowness couda been excused from "in heavy training"

his current shape looks ~ :

51.00 / 1'47.50 ->

3'30.91

4'46.93

7'22.45

12'42.76

26'34.27

he can be broken if 26'35 "rio" conditions adjusted are chased, which probably means 26'40 - 26'45

last year, mo was in spectacular shape :

~ 49.5 / 1'45.00 ->

3'27.08 !!!

4'42.33

7'16.66 !!!!

12'35.39 !!!

26'25.79 !

mo has catastrophically past-peaked this year for track times

there will never be any comment from his camp, but all the speed has gone (~ 49.5 to 51.0 ) & he has hugely dipped from last year...

Centro would have won this doofy race. Or Andrews. Maybe Blankenship. Probably Manzano. Definitely Webb. Possibly Hall. Lagat might have, and then we would get to see his kids again!! Alright now!

No one will be chasing 26'45" in Rio. Unless they're shooting for 16 seconds faster than the Olympic Record and a top 25 in history time. 26'45" comes at Diamond League meets after the Olympics.

Getting on a good doping program is an easy way to run fast times and world records. Those same doping programs are much more difficult logistically around championship races. In fact this is where most people get caught. Winning medals is almost certainly more impressive given the somewhat leveled playing field.

Red Blood Cells wrote:No one will be chasing 26'45" in Rio

why ?

is aim to chase 27'45 ?

Unless they're shooting for 16 seconds faster than the Olympic Record and a top 25 in history time

eh ?

why didn't you tell this to Rudisha before he went to top 1 in history ???

26'45" comes at Diamond League meets after the Olympics

no

you calculate

it may take 26'35 to break "mo" in oslo/zurich/eugene/brussels

therefore you estimate what heat/humidity of rio adds on

15s looks reasonable

therefore, Kenyans have to keep going at 26'50 pace at worst from gun to "break" mo in his current past-peak shape

Clue prescriber wrote:

LRC Commenter wrote:

Class act guys like Ryun or Bannister would never have let this happen. .

You're right. They never ran that fast. Ever.

They weren 't doped like Kiprop or Farah either. Touche'. lol

You're a cuck!

ukuv wrote:

Red Blood Cells wrote:

Tell me how many people in this single race have a faster PR in the 1500 than Farah.

What events is Farah doing at the Olympics? What 1500 runner would choose to do the 5K and 10K if the 1500 was their best event?

I love when people provide evidence against their OWN arguments. Like I said, Farah has the 2nd or 3rd faster PR. Only Kiprop is faster.

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You said wrong.

Farah is the equal 5th fastest 1500m runner on the scene right now.

He has proven himself time and again to be the best over 5k/10k.

The choice is simple for anyone but a fool.