Brits, any info on why your female runnner stabbed a UK Athletics official at your national stadium last week?

Of all the idiotic British "isms", "fell-running" has to be the worst.

Nobody knows what the fvck that is!

The story is that this is just another typical week in Brit sport…which usually also includes attempted murder and stabbings…just like the United States…on any weekend…or weekday.

For example:

1) ghastly mistakes at UKAD involving Dr. Bonar.

2) Wig's asthma and forgotten triamcinolone acetonide IM injections in autobiography.

3) Mr. Froome also has asthma…and wins the TDF also.

4) Ms. Paula Radcliffe runs WR marathon with a history of asthma and anemia 3 minutes faster than Liliya Shobukhova…who was banned for doping…etc., etc., etc…

5) Robert Young CheaterLiarCharityFraudRVRideMarathonManUKWorld RecordHolderâ„¢!!!

6) Mo Farah also has asthma (and maybe Galen Rupp and Cam Levins also..

7) Lizzie Armistead MIA Brit UKAD Fiascoâ„¢.

8) Stabbings and attempted murder involving UK Athletics.

9) I am tired now and will add to my list later.

It is running up a mountain and back down - but then you knew that.

iRunFar has a reasonable couple of articles

http://www.irunfar.com/2012/10/fell-running-a-quick-guide-part-1.html

The story is that this is just another typical week in Brit sport…which usually also includes attempted murder and stabbings

If you consider chess a sport, then CJ de Mooi was president of the English Chess Federation a few years back.

Bizarrely enough, Lauren was a friend of my uncles (they are based in the same part of Wales).

I actually went running with her once, we did a big loop over Cader Idris in the mountains around the village she lived. Spent maybe 5 hours with her? We actually got on really well, she was really cool, chatty and knew every path and trail like the back of her hand. I'd only just started running at the time so it was really cool in my mind.

She was actually due to come and visit London the week she got arrested, and I wondered why she stopped texting a few days before. Then found out.

And yet Russia was banned from the Olympics and the UK was allowed to compete (along with Kenya and Ethiopia)....

Blah Blah. wrote:

mediocresprinter wrote:

Interesting. It is weird that this is first I heard of this, I followed the news when the stabbing actually happened and there was no mention of it. Even in the BBC report above it only mentions "autism" being raised at the defense. As being a tranny is a reason for the motive I'm curious as to why other news outlets have neglected it

really makes ones ponder

Also interesting there is no mention that the person she stabbed was black. A white person attacking a black person is usually sufficient to claim that racism was involved.

The media seemed to be confused on whether the person she stabbed was the victim because he was black or that the person doing the stabbing was the victim because she was transgender.

So basically the British Semanya attempted a murder. Disgusting.

HHH runner wrote:

Bizarrely enough, Lauren was a friend of my uncles (they are based in the same part of Wales).

I actually went running with her once, we did a big loop over Cader Idris in the mountains around the village she lived. Spent maybe 5 hours with her? We actually got on really well, she was really cool, chatty and knew every path and trail like the back of her hand. I'd only just started running at the time so it was really cool in my mind.

She was actually due to come and visit London the week she got arrested, and I wondered why she stopped texting a few days before. Then found out.

I wouldn't say I knew Lauren to any extent but I had chatted with her before the start of a few races including Cader Idris and my impression of her was like yours, I'm totally shocked and saddened.

Let's just say that I know Laura rather well and know that she's been having a few issues lately but even I am surprised at this turn of events. Her and I often used to go running in the fells together and then stop off in a lay-by for some lunch in a nice rural village.

To me she's always been one helluva fell-a and I sincerely hope that she can transition through this ghastly ordeal!

Being discussed here

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2739095-To-be-livid-at-this-Attempted-murder-of-man-working-to-make-womens-sport-fairer

Most women not very happy

Hugh Grant wrote:

Let's just say that I know Laura rather well and know that she's been having a few issues lately but even I am surprised at this turn of events. Her and I often used to go running in the fells together and then stop off in a lay-by for some lunch in a nice rural village.

To me she's always been one helluva fell-a and I sincerely hope that she can transition through this ghastly ordeal!

I don't know Ralph Knibbs at all, but I do know that he is an ex-rugby player who turned down an England cap because he stood up against apartheid, who nearly lost his life doing his job. Unlike Jeske, who has had plenty of help for all the "isms" going, and still ended up nearly murdering him and injuring two others.

The media are really pushing the autism angle in the UK, but while autistic people are no more likely than the rest of us to commit a crime, males are 18 times more likely than females to do so. I can't help thinking that if everyone hadn't tiptoed around Jeske and his/her issues, allowing the situation to arise where he/she thought they were a women's running champion and that somehow the normal rules of society didn't apply to him/her, and instead laid down the firm and clear guidelines that autistic spectrum people tend to respond to best, we would not have ended up with 3 people seriously injured by stabbing and 1 person in jail.

I've also lined up against Jeske, and as a pretty average albeit fit female, felt rather dumpy and short compared to him/her. I've a friend who runs at a higher level than me who developed anorexia, trying to develop the sort of tall, lean physique that Jeske sports. Jeske was prone, I think its fair to say, to prancing around in the very tiny knicker type shorts most commonly seen on the track, and very pleased to talk to anyone who would give him/her attention (which of course he/she would not have received had he been 20th placed male). I remember previously reading about this case and joking to my boyfriend that Jeske looked like a man as his/her shoulders were so strong and muscular, without realising I was correct. It certainly wasn't common knowledge amongst all women runners, and Jeske completely dominated the sport for several years.

I do sympathise with genuine female runners trying their best to win against someone who displayed typical male strength and anatomical advantages in being able to overpower a former rugby player to an extent sufficient to inflict life threatening issues.

You might argue that fell running is all about having fun and not winning, but of course if you are at the top end of the field, you bust a gut to win if you are in with a shout. I cannot understand why Jeske and others don't simply play fair and race the other biological men, if they enjoy running so much (as opposed to the glory which comes from winning championships). A bit of HRT does not cancel out the physical advantages.

Kenny Stuart wrote:

Being discused here

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2739095-To-be-livid-at-this-Attempted-murder-of-man-working-to-make-womens-sport-fairer

Most women not very happy

That seems to have been taken down, in fairness I don't think Mumsnet really has a reputation for knowing when you'd need Mudclaws over Roclites. Interestingly the FRA Forum seems to have a self-imposed omerta on the subject.

No, its still there. A LOT of discussion going on.

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2739095-To-be-livid-at-this-Attempted-murder-of-man-working-to-make-womens-sport-fairer

There is a lot of nonsense on that site, but to be fair, if you actually want to read real womens' opinions on what they think of transgender issues and not being "allowed" to speak them in public (as opposed to the politically correct version that seems to dominate the media), its quite useful.

I'm getting a 405 Not Allowed

Presumably my ISP is blocking the page for me on the grounds of "hate speech" or similar.

smelltheroses wrote:

This really shows the workings of BBC and British Sport. No mention by them about the transgender issue, even though that was the reason for the attack, possibility of having titles taken back. Shows how difficult it is to get back to any sensible position with regard to Semanya etc.

They may feel, or have been advised, that it's not their business to reveal this. Especially if they haven't been told officially by the athlete, and/or are bound to respect the athlete's privacy.

Looks to be post-op, unlike Semenya.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GPiIGm44t0c/Thf2W-jnnyI/AAAAAAAAKl0/RpO3L5lieJ4/s1600/SP11+lauren+jeska.jpg

The original red X-Talon 190 I'd say

You are aware that being intersex like Semenya is nothing at all to do with being transgender? Or are you just being droll?

Infidel Gastro wrote:

Lends creedence to the argument that "transgender" is at least a symptom of mental illness.

Don't tell that to Bruce/Caitlyn, he cites his dyslexia for his many issues.

It has a LOT to do with being transgender if the latter is pre-op, i.e. in both cases they have functional testes, which are the most effective natural PED known.

Fell Runner wrote:

The original red X-Talon 190 I'd say

You are aware that being intersex like Semenya is nothing at all to do with being transgender? Or are you just being droll?