Manning acting like a thug over HGH accusations

The size of Manning's enormous forehead is proof of HGH use.

Manning's Forehead wrote:

The size of Manning's enormous forehead is proof of HGH use.

And he'll probably need to see an orthodontist in the offseason.

Manning is obviously just trying to protect his brand and legacy. Newton and Panthers will pound the Broncos... so long Peyton

kettle, pot wrote:

exthrower wrote:

You seem to be over reacting a little...Whats so egregious?

Yeah! The word "thug" should only be used to describe those darned negroes!

And we have our first racist on the thread. Your sarcasm is reverse racism.

Sly already recanted his lies about the damning parts. The PI's probably recorded the whole thing and can prove his lies which is why he recanted.

Your response has some valid points, but it seems to me you automatically convict an athlete if there is even a whiff of PED usage mentioned with the athlete's name. You sound very jaded regarding sports and PEDs. Just because Al Jazeera and that Sly guy report that mrs. Manning received shipments of HGH didn't mean it happened. I will agree that this whole story is fishy, but I don't personally know what actually happened. So, I won't assume the Manning have committed a crime just because that report. I will reserve my final judgment

I still think this is an over reaction. HGH usage should be opened up, imo.

Peyton WAS effectively out of the league. With his neck condition, he and his Dr's weren't certain he'd ever throw a football again, even with the surgeries. Those NFL contracts are performance-based, so he had some guaranteed funds but not a guaranteed contracts.

I don't know how I'd react in Peyton's situation because I've never been in that situation. I don't know how you can be so high and mighty because you imagine that you'd handle yourself in peyton's situation differently.

And to call people stupid for defining performance enhancing differently than yourself is real mature. Hope you feel like a big boy for calling someone else stupid.

It will be interesting if Manning sues Al Jazerra(like a couple of others have done). A lawsuit would involve depositions and direct questioning.

One more day & the NFL season is over.

Thank you Lord.

flabby wrote:

Your response has some valid points, but it seems to me you automatically convict an athlete if there is even a whiff of PED usage mentioned with the athlete\'s name. You sound very jaded regarding sports and PEDs. Just because Al Jazeera and that Sly guy report that mrs. Manning received shipments of HGH didn\'t mean it happened. I will agree that this whole story is fishy, but I don\'t personally know what actually happened. So, I won\'t assume the Manning have committed a crime just because that report. I will reserve my final judgment

Thing is, Manning has essentially confirmed she was sent HGH. Notice that he never denies it and the spokesman he apparently hired just for this episode (which itself is strange if the charges aren\'t true) specifically said that was never denied. Seems clear they won\'t say HGH was never shipped to his wife because that is something that can be checked in the records--they can\'t lie about it without being eventually caught.

What he has denied is taking it.

I don\'t think it requires much jading to think it likely that an athlete recovering from serious neck surgery, who has, by other accounts, tried things like STEM cell treatment to recover from it, gave the HGH that was sitting around the house a try.

A lot of people express the opinion that these extenuating circumstances make it a so what. However, it is clearly against the rules and he clearly knew it. And as I noted before, hit stats really did dive once the NFL actually started testing for it, so I think he may have been using the first 2 and a half years of his comeback and it was helping a lot.

Since this board loves to point out suspicious times, here are his passing stats by month:

Month Passer Rating

2012

September 96.9

October 126.7

November 97.7

December 108.4

2013

September 138

October 103

November 99.7

December 116.5

2014

September 108.5

October 127.4 NFL HGH testing begins

November 95.1

December 76.8

2015

September 83.3

October 60

November 53.8

His career passer rating is about 96. His average the first part of his come back was about 110! After HGH testing began it averages about 74!

The excuses over his last year and a half of bad performance have been a multitude of injuries that seem to change every week. Yet they are minor enough that you don\'t see him, for example, limp. Recover each week from being smashed over and over is obviously a big part of the game at that level. I think he got some extra help.

This is a terrible misuse of stats. The reason his stats dropped is he got injured. I don't think you can make any reasonable arguement that his injury issues were caused by stopping HGH. Also you would se a gradual breakdown over time if this was the case. Not the fall off a cliff scenario we saw with him last year. And I don't think there are any accusations of him recieving HGH except when he was recovering from the neck injury.

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Manning also hired Ari Fleischer the lying weasel mouth piece of the Bush Administration to defend him..This is the guy yelled down every reporter who questioned WMD's in Iraq...wondered how that turned out billions and thousands of lives later....

flabby wrote:

I agree. What is the big hubbub?

-Even if he did use HGH, he was out of the league. He was recovering from neck surgeries. He may have had a prescription. That is none of our business.

-So what if his wife was receiving HGH? That's none of our business either. For all we know, they as a couple were utilizing it to help with conceiving.

-Why does him using a PI to track the source of this story make him scummy?

- Do people really think using HGH when you're 35+ years old is going to be used as a PED? It's going to be used for healing, and conceiving, or any number of other legitimate uses. It's none of our business regardless.

Couldn't have said it better. The HGH is therapeutic not just athletic performance enhancement. It all depends on why it's being used. Manning was NOT even playing ball when it was delivered to his house. He was recovering from neck surgery. Therefore, it was not being used for athletic performance, but medical therapy by either him or his wife. Let's not distort facts to justify smearing someone's good reputation.

The dude has ZERO accountability to the NFL. They pay you to get the shit knocked out of you... neck surgery.. drug tests are piss tests.. no blood tests are asked for... WHAT DID HE DO WRONG according to NFL rules.... You hiding behind a computer is scum. i hope you get the shit knocked out of you by your own computer tomorrow, right before the super bowl.. you anal receptant. Manning is great. Armstrong/Rupp, not so much....

Manning is a puss. The whole nation will see that tomorrow.

As you hide behind you barbie dolls and mama's laptop.

flabby wrote:

I agree. What is the big hubbub?

-Even if he did use HGH, he was out of the league. He was recovering from neck surgeries. He may have had a prescription. That is none of our business.

-So what if his wife was receiving HGH? That's none of our business either. For all we know, they as a couple were utilizing it to help with conceiving.

-Why does him using a PI to track the source of this story make him scummy?

- Do people really think using HGH when you're 35+ years old is going to be used as a PED? It's going to be used for healing, and conceiving, or any number of other legitimate uses. It's none of our business regardless.

using hgh for healing IS what a PED is! Don't you understand that is what these guys use this stuff for? To use drugs to recover and heal faster is why they are banned!!!

Everyone posting this thread has CTE

flabby wrote:

And to call people stupid for defining performance enhancing differently than yourself is real mature. Hope you feel like a big boy for calling someone else stupid.

I don't think that Rojo called you stupid to stroke his ego. I'm pretty sure he called you stupid because of your appalling lack of mental acuity.

Hayduke wrote:

using hgh for healing IS what a PED is! Don't you understand that is what these guys use this stuff for? To use drugs to recover and heal faster is why they are banned!!!

Well...that's not why they are banned but they are banned.

urSCUM wrote:

The dude has ZERO accountability to the NFL. They pay you to get the shit knocked out of you... neck surgery.. drug tests are piss tests.. no blood tests are asked for... WHAT DID HE DO WRONG according to NFL rules.... You hiding behind a computer is scum. i hope you get the shit knocked out of you by your own computer tomorrow, right before the super bowl.. you anal receptant. Manning is great. Armstrong/Rupp, not so much....

I'm not picking sides here, my team is out, but, just trying to picture this - you hope his own computer knocks the shit out of him? How were you imagining that could happen exactly? His computer would just suddenly leap up and begin to repeatedly smash him? Do you think that is something that could actually happen? Has it happened to you?

Anyway, I think your crush on a grown man is leading you to these crazy impossible thoughts. Given your imagination for the occurrence of impossible events, I can only guess the crazy things you dream of Peyton doing to you...you do call him Peyton in those dreams right? Are you his Bronco? He mounts you doesn't he? Well, you enjoy your fantasies... just watch out for the attack of the computers!! Scary stuff.