Some members of Oregon militia arrested, one killed

The Fed criminals remaining won't leave because they don't trust the people to believe their made up stories when they're gone. They want to make absolutely sure the people won't hold them accountable for their murderous crimes against Finicum and the others when they leave. They are well armed and have an implied threat to kill more people if anyone tries to stand up for the victims and express what is really happening.

A nearby rally was held in support of Finicum and the other victims, and against the Fed criminals trying to not be held accountable for their crimes.

Folks, sadly this is all true. You know that other thread about when you were last ashamed of our country because of the same type of nonsense........nuff said.[/quote]

Clever attempt at a troll right?You don't really believe any of that.(If you are trolling, I respect the good attempt. If not, try thinking it through more carefully)

Conundrum Fed Criminals wrote:

The Fed criminals remaining won't leave because they don't trust the people to believe their made up stories when they're gone. They want to make absolutely sure the people won't hold them accountable for their murderous crimes against Finicum and the others when they leave. They are well armed and have an implied threat to kill more people if anyone tries to stand up for the victims and express what is really happening.

A nearby rally was held in support of Finicum and the other victims, and against the Fed criminals trying to not be held accountable for their crimes.

Folks, sadly this is all true. You know that other thread about when you were last ashamed of our country because of the same type of nonsense........nuff said.

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- close of the actually shooting

- full unedited video

A couple things to pay attention to......

Finicum was either reaching into his jacket for SOMETHING or reaching down to where he had been shot prior to the fatal shot. The video makes it a bit difficult to see any recoil if the feds did shoot. Not to mention if they were shooting and bullets were hitting the snow, you wouldnt be able to tell.

What you can see is bullets going into the car well after Finicum was shot. Whether the people in the car were doing something to get shot at or the feds decided to just start shooting? I have no idea and its basically impossible to tell from the video.

The people in the truck were taken alive as they exited the truck one by one.

It's somewhat encouraging for several people to call out DiscoGary for his disgusting rhetoric and twisted logic. Maybe a modicum of hope out there.

That video strongly suggests shooting was justified.

Deacon wrote:

Finicum was either reaching into his jacket for SOMETHING or reaching down to where he had been shot prior to the fatal shot. The video makes it a bit difficult to see any recoil if the feds did shoot.

They would never shoot him in the stomach first. Authorities will never shoot there first. They never shoot before an action is taking by a perp. Arm movement towards the upper body, along with refusal to stand down, they will shoot.

Donut Shoot wrote:

Deacon wrote:

Finicum was either reaching into his jacket for SOMETHING or reaching down to where he had been shot prior to the fatal shot. The video makes it a bit difficult to see any recoil if the feds did shoot.

They would never shoot him in the stomach first. Authorities will never shoot there first. They never shoot before an action is taking by a perp. Arm movement towards the upper body, along with refusal to stand down, they will shoot.

LOLOLOL at 'they never shoot before an action is taking (sic) by a perp'.

You are a full blown idiot..

ANTON CHIGURH wrote:

Donut Shoot wrote:

They would never shoot him in the stomach first. Authorities will never shoot there first. They never shoot before an action is taking by a perp. Arm movement towards the upper body, along with refusal to stand down, they will shoot.

LOLOLOL at 'they never shoot before an action is taking (sic) by a perp'.

You are a full blown idiot..

Hello, idiot. The action taken was exiting the vehicle and moving over 30' all the while being told to lie down. Still standing he reaches into his jacket, multiple times. Then he is shot.

The annoying thing to me is not doing anything about the four remaining at the nature center. I hope major major fines come out of all of this for everyone. They cost the taxpayers a crap load of money.

Some of the stuff I read from the loyal anarchists is absolutely mind blowing.

As far as whether they are terrorist or not (I did refer to them as terrorists) they are criminals and anarchists and if you don't want to call them terrorists okay you have a case. Certainly they are not killing innocents but they are armed and loose cannons. Who really knows what they will do.

The government is acting criminally.

Conundrum wrote:

The annoying thing to me is not doing anything about the four remaining at the nature center. I hope major major fines come out of all of this for everyone. They cost the taxpayers a crap load of money.

Some of the stuff I read from the loyal anarchists is absolutely mind blowing.

As far as whether they are terrorist or not (I did refer to them as terrorists) they are criminals and anarchists and if you don't want to call them terrorists okay you have a case. Certainly they are not killing innocents but they are armed and loose cannons. Who really knows what they will do.

No rational idea as to why the are letting this standoff continue into a 5th week. Trying avoid a Waco? That's still not rational.

As far as Finicum it's suicide by cop, as several have indicated. But the extremists here continue to rationalize.

Muslims in the woods wrote:

Can you imagine how different this would have played out if this was a group of Muslims?

Yes. You would have had about 1.5 billion Muslims around the world screaming racism, discrimination and Islamophobia. Dozens of embassies would have been burnt, and there would have been "sympathy actions" aka terror attacks every hour.

Made up nonsense wrote:

Finicum did NOT reach inside of his jacket.

The Feds fired on the people inside of the vehicle attempting to murder them too.

They shot him right away and he didn't have any chance to lay down in the snow, not that it would have made any difference. Also there is no evidence that they gave him clear instructions to lay down.

1) He clearly reached into his jacket

2) If the Feds wanted to kill the people inside of the vehicle then they would have. What was there to stop them?

3) No clear evidence? Yeah, they probably said something like, "Go ahead punk, make my day."

Seriously, are you ever right about anything?

Ever?

Donut Shoot wrote:

Hello, idiot. The action taken was exiting the vehicle and moving over 30' all the while being told to lie down. Still standing he reaches into his jacket, multiple times. Then he is shot.

Translation: The murder occurred after the victim exited the vehicle with his hands in the air. I watched the entire video and didn't hear even one instruction for him to lie down in the snow, which would have been ridiculous to do anyway. Why not just walk up and hold him with a couple of guys, then release him.

Also I didn't see him reach into his jacket, not even once. Of course his arms are attached to his torso, perhaps that's what you meant by them being close to his torso but that's not an excuse to shot him, nor indicates that he was holding a gun, which he wasn't.

The Feds murdured Finicum, and any excuses they're making up are excuses.

[quote]Conundrum wrote:

Do these comments reminder you of any other crazies?

"God wants us here, there's a sense that's beckoning and it comes from heaven,"

Sounds like the modern day Israelis who are, of course, above reproach.

And you be a whack job

J.R. wrote:

Translation: The murder occurred after the victim exited the vehicle with his hands in the air. I watched the entire video and didn't hear even one instruction for him to lie down in the snow, which would have been ridiculous to do anyway. Why not just walk up and hold him with a couple of guys, then release him.

[hands were never UP in the air. lie down was the command he was given.]

Also I didn't see him reach into his jacket, not even once. Of course his arms are attached to his torso, perhaps that's what you meant by them being close to his torso but that's not an excuse to shot him, nor indicates that he was holding a gun, which he wasn't.

[you are blind.]

The Feds murdured Finicum, and any excuses they're making up are excuses.

[finicum watch way too many shoot-em-up westerns films.]

You have loaded guns, you refuse to stop at a police barricade, you don't leave when the other passengers in your car leave and surrender but instead you speed off, you already stated that you won't be taken alive, you were not clearly surrendering but you expect the police to take a chance on you that you are not reaching to grab your gun?

And you think Finicum was murdered? Why was it that Fincum was the ONLY one murdered? You are as crazy as Finicum.