Bekele" Mo Farah CANT break my world records"

LLLOCCC wrote:

This is absolutely correct. Farah wouldn't know what to do if he ran a race like Bekele. Bekele has already proven Farah doesn't know during the Great North run a few years ago; Bekele easily defeated Farah.

I don't see how that race is at all relevant. Bekele is also no longer fast enough (and it is also not close) to come close to his own records.

Here is from Vin Lananna at the USATF Conference - "I recruited Galen. Alberto wrote the long term plan for Galen. We agreed to workouts. Andy Powell coaches Galen day-to-day at Oregon."

Here is another excerpt when Vin was first hired in 2005 and how it started and then remained the same,

Looks like someone found it to be a relevant question:

"Lananna said he has never dealt with a situation in which an athlete on his team was trained by another coach, such as Oregon freshman Galen Rupp being tutored by former UO great Alberto Salazar this past season.

However, he said he has a "positive relationship" with Salazar and he was confident they could work things out.

"Typically, I've coached whoever was on the team," Lananna said. "I have enough respect for Alberto and his coaching and passion that I think we can sort through this. ... Galen is a wonderful athlete and Alberto has done a great job. We'll take it one step at a time. It's not an issue to me."

As for Salazar, who is in Europe with Rupp, he was excited about Lananna's hiring and eager to work with him.

"I called Vinny three weeks before the NCAAs to ask his advice on Galen's workouts, that's how much I respect him," he said. "I look at this as a great opportunity to have someone to help with Galen."

tony the tiger wrote:

http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/BLZHEQ5xznDR731qnUtIeJ/Kenenisa-Bekeles-marathon-dreams.html

Will this motivate Mo ?

You can't motivate someone do accomplish something that is beyond their physical capabilities. This isn't a knock against Farah or anyone else but there are no runners currently who can come close to Bekele's 5000m and 10000m records.

COL wrote:

Also, why do so many great Ethiopian runners struggle with Achilles injuries? Geb, Bekele, Abera, many others have had to have multiple Achilles surgeries? Is it too much track work?

Yes these multiple Olympic and world champions / record holders need to really look at where they are going wrong!

Another good article explaining the coaching situation for our friend that does not understand the sport,

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=72491

With the blessing of UO coach Vin Lananna, Rupp has continued training under Salazar, who lives in Portland and is a senior executive at Nike while running the company's Oregon Project for distance runners.

I would love to look up the IP and expose LLLOCCC... probably a high school kid.

COL wrote:

I would love to look up the IP and expose LLLOCCC... probably a high school kid.

I would rather the mods here just ban him. He isn't contributing anything to this site.

Yes Galen trained under Alberto through college. No that isn't illegal.

Yes, it is unlikely that Mo could break KB's world records, not a slight at Mo at all, as I think he could give a closer challenge to either of them than anyone else on the planet right now, but that is just how good those records are.

I would like to see Mo at least give it a shot though, even if he ends up dying and runs ~13:10. You are only in peak shape for so long in life, so you need to strike while the iron is hot. Mo has had a very impressive run over the past 7-8 years, and while I don't think he's quite there yet, Father Time is undefeated, and at some point will win this one too.

You, COL, provide proof that Rupp's injuries while at Oregon had nothing to do with Salazar. Therefore those injuries that you claimed were Salazar-caused were not. It is obvious you got it wrong. Accept your error. You can't weasel out of it no matter how hard you try.

Ban, because your point was proven wrong? Sure thing troll.

COL provided proof Rupp was NOT trained by Salazar. Now you claim that Rupp was trained by Salazar while at Oregon; an NCAA rules violation. Not training plan, but physically trained.

I provided proof that Rupp WAS trained by Salazar.

Are you on drugs?

You posted:

Here is from Vin Lananna at the USATF Conference - "I recruited Galen. Alberto wrote the long term plan for Galen. We agreed to workouts. Andy Powell coaches Galen day-to-day at Oregon."

Reading your own posts is a good idea.

Posts about Vin, Galen, and salazar are really off-topic in this thread.

Mo has a 3:28 high 1500. He's fast enough.

Devonian wrote:

Mo has a 3:28 high 1500. He's fast enough.

He's fast enough at 1500. He is no threat to the WR at 5000m or 10000m. Not close.

Coaches day to day means he walks out there, reads the workout and watches him run. He is physically there "coaching" but not writing the workouts. Don't you understand the difference? Powell is the physical "coach", reading splits, giving assurances, while Salazar writes the workouts.

And rarely would I ever assign injury to a coach. The athlete is the one that usually is responsible for injury (not listening to his/her body).

Bekele is probably right, but let's say that Mo wants to go for one. Which one should he pick? On the 5K side, his 3:28:xx proved that he's got some speed and it's probably easier to find good 5K pacers.

It's tough to tell, but it doesn't seem like one record is of markedly higher quality than the other, they are both about equally tough, so I'd go for the one that I can run more often and for which I could get better assistance.

They are both so far outside of his possibility that it really isn't worth debating.

LLLOCCC wrote: Others have not had the injury avoidance success that Salazar has had.

COL responded: Rupp has been injured in the past. He had a chronic quad issue that took quite some time to resolve itself (remember his strap from his Oregon days?)....

The discussion was Salazar athletes avoiding injuries, particularly serious ones. You responded with injuries while under Salazar, and included Rupp's Oregon days.

1/10 because you are trying but your trolling isn't working.

My point stands: Salazar has had success with avoiding injuries to athletes under his direct care.