With the Oregon shooting, how long until LRC is filled with disgusting gun/anti-gun threads?

Gun restriction laws won't stop criminals from getting and using guns. Because guess what, criminals break the law. Who'da thunk?

Don't bother. Trailer trash conservatives don't look at data.

society's death spiral wrote:

alanson wrote:

It's a tough world for young men and they're not coping very well. I think I see it on these message boards also.

With all due respect, why is the world so much tougher for young men today? What is driving men to commit such horrific, anonymous, violent crimes?

I believe it starts with the way we socialize boys/men, but I'd like to hear other people's thoughts.

You may, in fact, be on to something significant.

Libtards = the problem wrote:

Libtards are the problem. Get rid of libtards the mass shootings become non-existant.[/quote]

Hey everyone, it's our fake Frogman! I am glad that you are taking this tragedy as an opportunity to make jokes, use the word "libtard" 10000 times (such an effective argument!) and just spill your hatred and idiocy left and right.

I know we've asked you this 1000x times on here, but, one more time: WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS WRONG WITH YOU???

You are a sick, demented, nut. You EXACTLY fit the profile of the type of people that end on going on these killing sprees: typical, angry, hateful, loser who rants and raves illiterately on message boards.

oh, and your "Facts" that most recent mass murderers in the US have been committed by liberals (or "libtards" as you so poetically and wittily put it every 4th word in your "sentences") is completely made up BS and you know it.

THIS OREGON KILLER LISTED HIS POLITICAL VIEWS ON A DATING SITE AS "CONSERVATIVE, REPUBLICAN"

Read and weep, psycho loser.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/details-emerge-about-oregon-gunman-a-self-described-conservative-who-loved-guns-and-conspiracy-theories/

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Guys, in all due respect no personal name calling attacks such as trash this and trash that.

Also, I make a plea to you guys to truly consider the ramifications of any talk of Gun Control. The end game is to ban and confiscate all forms of self defense. If you don't believe me then consider the following:

"History is replete with mass murder of people that couldn't defend themselves from tyranny."

Paraphrase B. Shapiro

Undercover videos have shown politicians saying they want to ban and confiscate.

Hi Kermit! wrote:

Libtards = the problem wrote:

Libtards are the problem. Get rid of libtards the mass shootings become non-existant.

Hey everyone, it's our fake Frogman! I am glad that you are taking this tragedy as an opportunity to make jokes, use the word "libtard" 10000 times (such an effective argument!) and just spill your hatred and idiocy left and right.

I know we've asked you this 1000x times on here, but, one more time: WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS WRONG WITH YOU???

You are a sick, demented, nut. You EXACTLY fit the profile of the type of people that end on going on these killing sprees: typical, angry, hateful, loser who rants and raves illiterately on message boards.

oh, and your "Facts" that most recent mass murderers in the US have been committed by liberals (or "libtards" as you so poetically and wittily put it every 4th word in your "sentences") is completely made up BS and you know it.

THIS OREGON KILLER LISTED HIS POLITICAL VIEWS ON A DATING SITE AS "CONSERVATIVE, REPUBLICAN"

Read and weep, psycho loser.

Too funny! A "conservative" who singled out Christians for execution! The weirdo was your typical atheist Libtard!!!

Glad I could anger you today weirdo!

Here is how Liberals shoot themselves in the proverbial foot every single time they try to use a mass shooting to justify 'stricter gun control',

Liberals would have us believe that we law-abiding citizens have nothing to fear of stricter gun control, which will entail nothing more than things like expanded background and mental health checks, bans on 'assault' and automatic weapons, etc.. "We're not trying to take your guns away" is what they say, but their responses to these events tell a different story.

So some deranged idiot hauls off and murders 10 innocent people, and BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW THE MURDERER'S NAME, Obama is on national TV admonishing every supporter of the 2nd Amendment in America.

Yet at this point, for all we know the shooter had no history of mental illness, had never been arrested or convicted of any crime, and had purchased every single non-automatic, non-scary looking firearm legally after having passed a comprehensive background check.

And yet Obama and most Liberals are absolutely CERTAIN than stricter gun control would have prevented this tragedy. So how do you prevent someone like this, a law-abiding innocent-until-proven-guilty American citizen with a clean record and no history of mental illness, from having access to a firearm? ** You can only ban all firearms **. And therein lies the rub, the oh-so-obvious contradiction in the Liberal argument for gun control, and why it will never, ever succeed in America as-stated.

COSNY wrote:

Gun restriction laws won't stop criminals from getting and using guns. Because guess what, criminals break the law. Who'da thunk?

If guns aren't legal, there are far fewer in circulation. Much harder to access. Sure criminals can get on a black market, but they can't just go and buy some/steal one easily. Same with ammo.

And not all criminals are equal. Well-resourced drug gangs - yes, they can find guns regardless (although they mostly use on each other). It's much harder for an average psychopath to find and use a gun, or a petty criminal. And when they do, it's usually a handgun or shotgun, not a semi-automatic.

Are you serious with this claptrap? You have big problems if you think there aren't enough forms of self defense. Please elaborate on your conspiracy theory there... Last time I checked it's 2015 and no mass tyranny is taking place in any developed nation. I find these "you never know" arguments truly painful.Tell me in all honesty, and use simple logic before you answer... do you believe that the absurdly high number of annual gun-related murders in the US has nothing at all to do with easy access to firearms? Or should I sit here and just believe that 10,000+ people per year would be murdered in this country with or without firearms anyway? Just think about that for a second. We already have close to one firearm for every single person in this country, what number do you suggest would be more adequate to prevent all these murders? Do you really think it's smart and sensible to just have as many people as possible packing to deter mass shootings and other gun violence? My position is too radical for most of you to stomach so I will say I am for much more gun control than the non existent amount we have today. For the amount of responsibility one needs to have with a firearm, I would love to see very strict screening and a robust continuing education/training system in place at the federal level. That way, if you are a gun and 2nd amd nut, you can still acquire as many guns as you want as long as you can continuously show you are sane enough, educated and properly trained. This was everyone else has some level of assurance you are a responsible gun owner. Is that too much to ask or would that qualify as a serious infringement on your rights?By the way, I served in the Marines in my day and it's precisely because of my familiarity with rifles and handguns and combat experience that I have strong feelings toward gun control. I know so many blowhards that claim they could easily eliminate a mass shooter and I call bullsh*t on them every single time. In that kind of situation, you are so shocked and confused you have no idea who is good or bad and by the time you assess wtf is going on it's too late. Shooting targets all year long won't help you improve your skills in these situations. We are talking about real panic here, trust me I've been there. So if I'm caught in the middle of a mass shooting the last thing I want is for one of you sh*t heads to be armed and loaded. That's why I advocate for stricter gun control. I don't want mentally unstable or under qualified and irresponsible people to get their hands on firearms, period.

Pro_gun wrote:

Guys, in all due respect no personal name calling attacks such as trash this and trash that.

Also, I make a plea to you guys to truly consider the ramifications of any talk of Gun Control. The end game is to ban and confiscate all forms of self defense. If you don't believe me then consider the following:

"History is replete with mass murder of people that couldn't defend themselves from tyranny."

Paraphrase B. Shapiro

Undercover videos have shown politicians saying they want to ban and confiscate.

Before we get to far into this debate, does anyone even know if any of the gun laws on the books would have prevented this person from possessing the guns he had on him. The report I read said he had three pistols and a rifle (it makes no mention as to whether or not he had the high capacity rounds that a lot of gun legislation is geared toward, whether he had a concealed carry permit, etc.). It only mentions that one of the guns was registered to another individual, which would mean he obtained at least one of them Illegally anyhow. My argument against gun controls has always been that a motivated individual will always be able to find a way to commit murder. Take a look at Mexico, Central and South America. Overall, they have much stricter gun laws than ours, however, they have homicide rates that put ours to shame.

You are drawing a poor analogy to Latin America. Throughout most of Central and South America these gun laws (like most other laws) are not enforced and when they are enforced the punishment is meaningless. Mexico is a an even more special case. Most illegal firearms circulating in Mexico originated from, you guessed it, the US.

I disagree that a motivated individual will ALWAYS find a way to commit murder. A firearm is the most effective and easiest way to kill multiple people in a short timeframe. If it was legal to purchase a ready made explosive device online trust me a lot of psychos would. Easy access to firearms provides a psychopath with extra motivation to do something horrible. If you're hellbent on doing something crazy, being around firearms all the time isn't exactly going to deter you. When I hear about all these knife attacks in China it always makes me wonder how much worse the damage would have been if they had firearms.

It's also become popular to be a mass shooter in this country. The increasingly high number of incidents like this is just unreasonable and becoming harder to ignore. Mass shootings and the high gun murder rate have become a crisis without question and I believe stricter gun control will help. Pro gun advocates become ultra sensitive whenever we have this discussion, but no one is offering better solutions. I believe tightening at the federal level is key as we need to avoid the cross border slippage we have right now. If you're a thug in Chicago all you have to do is drive 10 minutes in any direction to purchase one illegally. It's also insane to me that it's legal in our country to be an irresponsible gun owner. How is having your weapon laying around in the open ok?

I'm waiting to hear whether he was taking SSRIs.

I think the solution is to ban schools since most of these shootings occur in schools. That will give the conservatives a chance to keep people from being educated who usually vote Republican as shown from some of the responses here. SMH

?!?!?!?!?! wrote:

I think the solution is to ban schools since most of these shootings occur in schools. That will give the conservatives a chance to keep people from being educated who usually vote Republican as shown from some of the responses here. SMH

There is a common theme with all these "shootings."

That theme = "gun free zone"

As soon as that idiotic policy is done away with the mass shootings stop.

Until then, liberal minded policies and angry liberal evil doers will continue to murder the defenseless.

I wish I had stopped reading your comment at "evil doers"... you must be related to our beloved 43rd president

Common theme wrote:

?!?!?!?!?! wrote:

I think the solution is to ban schools since most of these shootings occur in schools. That will give the conservatives a chance to keep people from being educated who usually vote Republican as shown from some of the responses here. SMH

There is a common theme with all these "shootings."

That theme = "gun free zone"

As soon as that idiotic policy is done away with the mass shootings stop.

Until then, liberal minded policies and angry liberal evil doers will continue to murder the defenseless.