I once went to a wedding where it rained all day. And I found a black fly in my chardonnay.
No, I didn't fly.
I once went to a wedding where it rained all day. And I found a black fly in my chardonnay.
No, I didn't fly.
Ironic? No, not really.
Typical runner or sockpuppet wrote:
No Purrz wrote:Nope.
To be ironic it would have to be a situation where the wedding planners specifically tried to avoid the rain and the reality turned everything on its head.
For example, plan the wedding for August rather than June to avoid rain. Then June is sunny every weekend and your August wedding gets drenched. That would be ironic.
But if it simply rains when you did not want it to or expect it to is not ironic in any way.
Wrong. There is nothing the definition that says you have to go to extraordinary lengths to prevent something bad from happening.
Rain on day you went hiking: sucks, but not ironic
Rain on a day you went to the beach: sucks, but not ironic
Rain on what you hope to be the best day of your life: really sucks, but not ironic
Corrected that for you.
Afraid to Fly wrote:
I once went to a wedding where it rained all day. And I found a black fly in my chardonnay.
No, I didn't fly.
Whys it gotta be a black fly?
Why nots one of them green ones that go on shit and stuff?
SO that other Alanis Morissette song came on the radio the other day and my wife turns it up and starts singing along and then realizes that Alanis is singing about public fellatio and rough sex and everything. My kids were in the car with us. What a dirty perv she was, that Alanis.
To be ironic, it would be a situation where they seeded the clouds in advance of the wedding to clear the sky of rain before the day of the wedding, but that precise method actually caused the rain to a fall down exactly on the planned wedding day.
That would be ironic.
Did the plane flight involve a treadmill in any way?
An example of irony: Ronald Reagan refusing to back government funding for Alzheimer's research and then eventually succumbing to the disease himself.
You get it? Seriously, it's not that difficult to understand.
McWord wrote:
Probably one of the most mis-used words in the language.
Similar to the most over-used word - "surreal". Why is everything suddenly "surreal" to people who just discovered the word?
Hero is way up there as an overused word
One time my roomates and I had 3,000 knives 7,000 forks and not a spoon in site. Our roomate was a heroin addict. He got evicted from the apartment and we later heard he died of an overdose.
It explained how we were all the victims of check fraud. He broke into our rooms and wrote himself checks. But there was no money in any of our accounts. We were college students.
it's sort of like when I burp and it smells like a fart
A 98 year old man buying lottery tickets? There's your irony!
Example of Irony wrote:
An example of irony: Ronald Reagan refusing to back government funding for Alzheimer's research and then eventually succumbing to the disease himself.
You get it? Seriously, it's not that difficult to understand.
I'm not so sure Reagans Alzheimers came under the timeline heading "eventually". Evidence for "while currently suffering from" abounds.
A smile like the cartoon, tooth for a tooth....
You said that irony was the shackles of youth
I've got a piece of irony. Imagine an OP that wants everyone to use their words correctly, and in his pitch he can't even get the words to a simple song right...
It's like rain on your wedding day
1) It's a shame the the more "unique" meaning of ironic (Reagan example not bad; WWII fighter ace dying in commuter plane accident an ole' favorite) has been crowded by the "simple coincidence" (or other) less unique meaning(s). We already have the word "coincidence," and one of the meanings of ironic is much "more" than coincidence, so why use ironic for the more pedestrian meaning? I've found that annoying.
2) It's possible that I'm pseudo-intellectual, but I'm DEFINITELY not a hipster, and I've always assumed that Alanis simply got the song wrong, or simply believes in the coincidence use of ironic. Suspect it's giving her too much credit that she was being ironic. But people seem to like to believe that celebrities - especially "ARTISTS" - are smarter than they probably are.
wish it would rainTemptations wrote:
Wiki says
Irony is a figure of speech in which words are used in such a way that their intended meaning is different from the actual meaning of the words. It may also be a situation that may end up in quite a different way than what is generally anticipated. In simple words, it is a difference between the appearance and the reality.
As the language evolves words change in meaning because of usage . . . and yes even if the usage is incorrect or arrived at by convoluted logic. In todays usage IRONIC simply means did not turn out as you planned...and most people do not plan to have in rain on their wedding day.
You are confusing verbal irony and situational irony. These are different things. There is also dramatic irony and cosmic irony. I was going to explain, but can't be bothered. Have a look on the interweb.
OK, so I've always thought the irony of that line is like this:
Rain is a bad thing when you want a nice day.
But... Rain on a wedding day is, to the superstitious, a good omen.
Therefore, rain on the wedding day, which would seem to be a bad thing on what you want to be a nice day, is actually a good omen.
Seems bad, actually good?
Maybe?
no, no and no. Rain on what you hope to be the best day is NOT ironic. it's a bummer.
For it to be ironic, you must have reasonable expectation that it wasn't going to rain. Example - if you go out of the house without an umbrella and it rains, it is NOT ironic. If you are a professional weather forecaster and you go out without an umbrella and it rains, it IS ironic, because the weather forecaster could be reasonably expected to know if it was about to rain or not.
you fail at correctly spotting irony.
got me tinkin about that epic music video for that epic song november rain....
they just dont do music like that anymore. its sad. its like walkin alone in the cold november rain....
everbody needs somebody...
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