LetsRun.com Needs to Come up With A Policy for Race Cheaters

keeping yourself nameless while accusing people of cheating will lead to well-deserved attacks on your blog. of course, you can delete all posts made that contradict your accusations. that way you strengthen your point-of-view.

if you truly believed you were right you would not be afraid of letting the accused know who you really are. but if you continue to hide that means you are not absolutely sure you are correct.

There are thousands of posts in the Rossi thread that are nameless--and we're all sure he cheated.

And I'm not afraid of letting the accused no who I am - I did message and friend Kara (she since unfriended me) - she could easily post my information on a thread in letsrun.

Doubler, are are trying to bait Kara, someone you do not know, into arguing with you. It is somehow her responsibility to post your information to a blog intended to attack as people suspected of cheating. You have decided you can remain hidden to protect yourself.

I hope this lady sues you. Whether she cheated or not, you would lose in a lawsuit. It is obvious you don't understand the law.

quit trolling.

I am not baiting her. I friended her to try to make her else are of the allegations. Another user got her attention first. I have not attempted to contact her since. Someone posted that I am hiding from the accused cheater. I posted how I was not and that I revealed myself to Kara.

I posted information on the blog that is publicly available. I posted facts only.

Baited breath wrote:

Doubler, are are trying to bait Kara, someone you do not know, into arguing with you. It is somehow her responsibility to post your information to a blog intended to attack as people suspected of cheating. You have decided you can remain hidden to protect yourself.

I hope this lady sues you. Whether she cheated or not, you would lose in a lawsuit. It is obvious you don't understand the law.

No, I'm afraid you're the one that doesn't understand the law. If you're thinking she would have a viable claim for defamation of character, you would be wrong.

You have your blog little Doubler. Any other bloggers posting yet?

The troll is in your mirror. You post under so many nics here in a weak attempt to support yourself. Please build your blog and use it to attack the people you think might be cheating.

The poster is correct about your being sued for attacking people you "think" did something naughty. Please go join Doubler on his blog. He promises to protect your identity so that you cannot possible be sued.

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Doesn't mean that the suit has merit.

How is my blog different from the cheating threads here with Litton/Rossi, etc.? It is attempting to do the same thing.

The motivation for attacking me is questionable. Either you are a cheater and trying to scare me into taking it down, or you are a simple troll. I'm sure you aren't posting out of genuine concern that I may get sued.

Really, why would it bother you if we out cheaters on the site? I am not going to randomly attack anyone that sets a PR. The cases brought on this forum are cut and dry. No one doubts that Rossi, Litton, and Moore cheated. The standard will be the same.

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Doesn't mean that the suit has merit.

How is my blog different from the cheating threads here with Litton/Rossi, etc.? It is attempting to do the same thing.

The motivation for attacking me is questionable. Either you are a cheater and trying to scare me into taking it down, or you are a simple troll. I'm sure you aren't posting out of genuine concern that I may get sued.

Really, why would it bother you if we out cheaters on the site? I am not going to randomly attack anyone that sets a PR. The cases brought on this forum are cut and dry. No one doubts that Rossi, Litton, and Moore cheated. The standard will be the same.

You need to build up your blog. You have the opportunity to become as well known as the wikileaks dude.

No, I'm just a hobby blogger.

Doubler wrote:

No, I'm just a hobby blogger.

Well done!

Doubler, your blog only has one poster, and only one cheater. How sad. They must be more cheaters than the one you found. Others who find cheaters need to support you by outing those people for the world to see.

Dude, it's like 12 hours old. There will be more added. There's nothing more to do with Kara at this point.

It takes time..when someone else comes to light, and there's something else to do, it'll get traffic and posts.

I've only posted the blog link in the 2 threads one time.

Since I was bored, I briefly scanned the 2014 results of my local marathon. There was one guy who stood out in the 55-59 age category, though not enough to out him publicly. I suspect, based on his previous times, a missed timing mat, as well as his huge negative split that he cut off a loop of the course but he didn't win any awards and missed qualifying for Boston (barely) so, I'm gonna' leave him alone.

I like the idea of a site to help catch cheaters though.

Okay, so we need to be careful outing cheaters. What size of negative split should we use before submitting a cheater to Doubler's blog.

Doubler, can we submit names of cheaters, and keep our IP address anonymous?

impossible problem unless RD wise up!

I found a runner in a recent flat marathon that ran a 18:31 5k split en route to a BQ of 3:12. That's the percent equivalent of a 2:10 marathoner suddenly dropping multiple sub 4:00 miles in the middle of their marathon. I emailed the timer and they would not DQ because there was not enough evidence and it was within the realm of possibility. If a 7:14 pace marathoner suddenly did 6:00 pace for 5km on a flat course without blowing up, they either cheated, the timing malfunctioned, or they have the best lactate tolerance on the planet. Since they also missed the 20 mile mat, I suspect they cheated. If RD won't even listen for stuff this obvious, well good luck solving course cheating problem.

You have your blog wrote:

The poster is correct about your being sued for attacking people you "think" did something naughty. Please go join Doubler on his blog. He promises to protect your identity so that you cannot possible be sued.

Neither Rossi or Moore are suing anybody. It's just not gonna happen.

Kriteria, I don't think I can see IP addresses of those that post. But there is an email link on the bottom of the blog. you could submit it that way and I could post the info.

I don't think there's a solid rule..but I think it has to be significant and inconsistent with past clean results.