German Fernandez

In the interview a few weeks ago, he looked totally messed up like he'd been on drugs for awhile. If so, it's a mistake to keep hiding and prolonging the damage.

You guys are idiots who have no clue as to what it takes to run that fast. Stick with your hobby jogging as real workouts are far too much for you to understand. I've broken 8 for 3,000 and 2:17 for a marathon. You are clueless, give it up!

Trialswatcher wrote:

Thanks for the defense UR POST, but I am okay dealing with this nit wit. Thanks again.

Listen even though well beaten , German ran 3:57.5 in Sept at 5th Ave mile, unless he had more setbacks, which WAS what I was looking for, sub 8 minutes would surely be within his grasp, and I don;t care if he has only run 72's, with any type of strides and snap assuming his mileage is enough , this is a time he should be able to run in workouts almost solo for sure.

Was he set back again, that is the question. I have zero malice for German Fernandez, I am only looking for info .He is still a very young man at 24+ and I am hoping he can still get near what he originally looked like and that was like a future a world beater at 18 with 3:55, 7:47 and 13:25

"He looked good. Better this slow approach and be ready for the big meets this summer than run a 7:45 3k now and get re-injured and be out for the summer." - Sensible comment!

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Everyone was so impressed by what he achieved and how he did it back in HS and during his freshman year - simply amazing! So, it's hard not to make excuses for him because we all know (or we think we do) what he's truly capable of. For him, it's a knife edge with training & racing and if he pushes too much - "SNAP!" Then he's out for another 8-10 weeks. He doesn't need that and we don't want that. So let's all take a deep breath, hope, pray, cross our fingers, do some voodoo, be patient or what ever it takes to help him get there.

Go German, Look'in Great Baby!

[quote]Sensible wrote:

"He looked good. Better this slow approach and be ready for the big meets this summer than run a 7:45 3k now and get re-injured and be out for the summer." - Sensible comment!

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Playing it safe, rust buster, no speed work, focusing on the future, etc.; I understand all of that, but any world class athlete should be able to dominant 2nd tier NCAA athletes under just about any circumstance. I also understand he is not the GF from 5 years ago, but based on his performances from the end of last year means he should have at least been able to run the middle laps a second or two faster so that it did not come down to a kick. I can only assume he is coming off of another injury.

Fart Nugget Cheese Fries wrote:

Trialswatcher wrote:

At age 18 he ran his first collegiate 3K on same track in 7:47, 6 years later he is losing to a guy who was not even in Oregon's top 5 in cross . in 8:04?

Its hard to believe after he somehow got to 3:34.xx that he cannot easily break 8 flat easily or 13:20 by now, unless he is has recently been completely sidelined for months lately or has completely lost his competitive edge.

Really, because this comment shows a complete ignorance for what it takes to run at a high level.

You've clearly never been competitive enough to understand this.

I don't think it is an unreal expectation for a professional runner to run faster than he did in HS or college. How many of our great talents, and German is one, didn't get better as a professional?

Everyone just wants to see him healthy and what is truly capable of.

I don't think we'll ever see what his potential was. That ship sailed a long time ago. Maybe his body wasn't built for durability, maybe his head wasn't in the right place, I dunno, but German has missed out on YEARS of training and racing. When was the last time Galen Rupp ran slower than he did as a freshman in college?

All that being said, here's to hoping that German can put it together again.

Please tell me that you're not a real coach, pleeeeaaassseeeee? You don't assume sh*t dumba**. You know or you don't. Your speculation is an embarrassment to the those of us with knowledge. Please, go back to your high school coaching job and stop inputting moronic statements.

TrackCoach wrote:

[quote]Sensible wrote:

"He looked good. Better this slow approach and be ready for the big meets this summer than run a 7:45 3k now and get re-injured and be out for the summer." - Sensible comment!

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Playing it safe, rust buster, no speed work, focusing on the future, etc.; I understand all of that, but any world class athlete should be able to dominant 2nd tier NCAA athletes under just about any circumstance. I also understand he is not the GF from 5 years ago, but based on his performances from the end of last year means he should have at least been able to run the middle laps a second or two faster so that it did not come down to a kick. I can only assume he is coming off of another injury.

Huge German Fan wrote:

give him the benefit of the doubt a little longer.

Go German!

He's already had a few years

He was a great junior who has showed nothing since

ukathleticscoach wrote:

He's already had a few years

He was a great junior who has showed nothing since

'has shown'

asfadsfdsf wrote:

I don't think we'll ever see what his potential was. That ship sailed a long time ago. Maybe his body wasn't built for durability, maybe his head wasn't in the right place, I dunno, but German has missed out on YEARS of training and racing. When was the last time Galen Rupp ran slower than he did as a freshman in college?

All that being said, here's to hoping that German can put it together again.

This is about the only post that made be say: 'Yeah, that's it!'

Unfortunately, as it would be cool to root for him, this dude is done. I, however, don't blame Jerry (look at Jager) but OK State.

Not a popular POV here, as the moderators and nearly all posters participated in the NCAA, but this is just another example of college sports ruining a potentially great talent.

El G, Komen, Haile, Tergat, Kenny B, and the great Paula are examples of talent NOT destroyed by bush league semi-pro 'team sports' in which programs are not and cannot be individualized. In fact, neither are race distances. XC is what it is whether your own talent lies shorter or longer.

Of course, none of you (least of all the brojos) will weigh in and say you agree. I realize that. Fernandez himself would be hard-pressed to disagree. Adios German. Good HS career, decent year at OSU. Good luck with the search for a coaching gig! Hopefully you won't end up needing a day job!

Saw Jerry's men early December, just briefly way out in the mountains. I think it was all of them. Got to mention, they looked real good. They were laughing and joking and all seemed so relaxed. German, to me looked amazing, looked very healthy. They just finished a run. I don't know, everything about him looked so fresh, strong and alert. He seemed tall and powerful looking. They all looked great! Just some skinny on a recent sighting. :)

It sounds to me as if he has lowered the intensity of his training in hopes of staying healthy long enough to build a base and gradually improve his shape until he's ready when it counts, which is about six months away. His 3:57 was a good sign, as was his performance at Club XC off of little sleep and direct from the airport. 8:04's not bad at all, but simply not of the caliber of his freshman year races. So, we haven't seen anything that shows he will realize his potential this year, but also nothing that says he won't have a great year if healthy. That's always the key for a guy who ran 4/8:36 and later 8:34 in hs, on limited speed because of injury, 3:55 solo and 7:47 (probably ill), as well as 3:39 to win NCAA outdoor 1500m as a freshman, and then 3:34 with a few months of health after graduation, in his first European 1500m.

asfadsfdsf wrote:

. When was the last time Galen Rupp ran slower than he did as a freshman in college?

Not since he was diagnosed with asthma, hypothyroidism, crohns by Dr. Brown.

Very sad story. So much talent wasted.

Who the hell gets injure by just running?

Wasn't German's training in HS Daniels based with too much intensity and low mileage? More quality less volume.

Dam it! He had the speed - he just needed strength, not more "quality".

This kid would have been an Olympian had he followed Lydiard.

What a shame.

Are you happy? wrote:

Very sad story. So much talent wasted.

Who the hell gets injure by just running?

Wasn't German's training in HS Daniels based with too much intensity and low mileage? More quality less volume.

Dam it! He had the speed - he just needed strength, not more "quality".

This kid would have been an Olympian had he followed Lydiard.

What a shame.

Like you know. Yeah, right!

And I´ve broken 7,40 and 2,10 (I can lie on the internet, too).

I have watched German Fernandez's 8:04 3k about 10 times now and he realy sucks....he is done!!!!!!!!!

NOT!!!!

I noticed something that he does when he is fit and healthy. The ability to gain or separate.

He was just sitting between 5th and 8th. The leaders were 4:22 at the mile. German about 4:24..

With about 2 laps to go he is way off the lead. A few seconds later the camera pans back to the leaders and he in right there behind the leaders.

What I saw in the race he just lacks speed work. That will come this spring and summer.

He sat in second until the last turn. The Oregon runner just out kicked him.

Jaeger stated that the Bowerman team was going to race a lot indoors this winter.

Nothing mention whether German was running indoors or cross country.

No matter it is fun to read all the positive and negative stuff about German's performances.

Much better to read this than to wonder where is German.

To all the negative post on German and his coach, as Andrew Dice Clay used to say, " Here's to you sucking my D%$&."

well.,========trialswatcher, same IPu haven't broken 7,40 or 2,10 and yes we all knew you were lying. btw, 7:40 and 2:10 is the proper way to lie.as for the poster who ran a sub 8 and sub 2:17, he's legit and runs for the biggest running team in the midwest.

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Dumbo Alert wrote:

You guys are idiots who have no clue as to what it takes to run that fast. Stick with your hobby jogging as real workouts are far too much for you to understand. I've broken 8 for 3,000 and 2:17 for a marathon. You are clueless, give it up!

And I´ve broken 7,40 and 2,10 (I can lie on the internet, too).

??? I have nothing to do with any other IP or any other poster on here.

A lot of folks know who I am and whether they like me or agree with me, they surely know I do not post on here under multiple names.

On the German thing, folks love to take legit questions and turn them into some line of bashing or hating.

NOT the case.