Examples are clearly provided in the original post. The OP is a doofus and made up this whole "shtr" business, but he did provide examples.
Examples are clearly provided in the original post. The OP is a doofus and made up this whole "shtr" business, but he did provide examples.
Can someone post a video of an American-raised person (who isn't freakishly weird) speaking this way?
There's no h in Sean Connery either
abu akbar wrote:
Can someone post a video of an American-raised person (who isn't freakishly weird) speaking this way?
That would be nice. I've lived everywhere from rural college towns to NYC. I've worked and gone to school with people from just about every part of the country. I have never heard anyone speak that way.
If I asked a dozen people on the train where to get off for Greenwich Village, I'm reasonably confident that not a single one of them would tell me to get off at "4th Shtreet."
You forgot the weird corollary: where folks DROP the 'h' from other words, like when "shrimp" becomes "srimp."
We joke about it in my house, making reference to "Goin' down ta Srimp Shtreet."
Didn't find a video yet, but I found this on the web, which I hope shows Im really not making this up. Open your ears, people!
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/84836/why-is-str-sometimes-pronounced-as-shtr
The OP once more wrote:
Didn't find a video yet, but I found this on the web, which I hope shows Im really not making this up. Open your ears, people!
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/84836/why-is-str-sometimes-pronounced-as-shtr
I realized that I DO do this with certain words! It's crazy and it's subtle. I didn't used to do it, living in California, but now living in NY for some reason I've picked it up. I'm making a conscious effort now to NOT do it.
I live in DC. Most TV and radio broadcasters do this. I'm from the midwest so I hear it. Every. Single. Time.
Eric Bickell, Jim Vance, every TV sports guy, John Aaron, every traffic reporter (they all say shtreet), Joe Beninati .
Every black person and most Jews and northeasterns says this, too. Listen if you don't believe me. I hate that I can hear this.
I've never noticed.
Shhhhh wrote:
There's no h in Sean Connery either
That'sh becaush I left the h from my shemen in your mother!
If the street is shtreet, then you can bet with is wiff, and birthday is birfday.
No h in str wrote:
I'm pretty sure it started with African Americans...
Why are you pretty sure it started with African Americans? Please explain this or is this just some racist garbage? I'm surprised so few people have attributed this to the Irish.
The only people I've heard do this are either black people or those with a speech disorder (or black people with a speech disorder).
It's a Mid-Atlantic thing, specifically with Philly and Balitmore accents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hKpQRgMRAf4#t=82
experience wrote:
The only people I've heard do this are either black people or those with a speech disorder (or black people with a speech disorder).
My experience is definitely different; I mostly hear this in white Americans with regional accents in the Northeast.
osodo wrote:
No h in str wrote:I'm pretty sure it started with African Americans...
Why are you pretty sure it started with African Americans? Please explain this or is this just some racist garbage? I'm surprised so few people have attributed this to the Irish.
It was the Black Irish who started it..
experience wrote:
The only people I've heard do this are either black people or those with a speech disorder (or black people with a speech disorder).
That's shtraight up racist.
never heard this