OP, are there any other stresses in their life right now? Taking harder classes this year, applying to schools, etc? It doesn't help with a solution but could also be part of the problem. Remember, its not only the stress of training that your body is absorbing, its everything in the other 22 hours a day as well.
Pretty normal JR year stuff and a heavy work load. It started right away this year. But she never ever gets less the 8.5-9 hours sleep, so she's well rested.
You Are What You Is wrote:
You seem to know every detail about her training, every number about what she's doing. She's not a number, and she needs support, not analysis and pressure.
Sorry that she feels that she can share the information with her parents. We know she's not a number just a kid trying to do her best and looking for help getting there. We as a family support her in this effort and a just trying to aid in her recovery. If there is any analyzing its only to understand when and where things got sidetracked so that mistake won't get repeated.
trackdad5837 wrote:
She has had a cold for about 5-6 days now could that explain the numbers over 60? Or is it just a symptom of the over-training? I understand on the rest but I'm worried that may be difficult to with the goals for the team this year.
Resting heart rate is increasing because plasma volume is decreasing because she is not training hard. This is normal. You can't use heart rate as an accurate guide the way some people suggest.
Your girl probably peaked too soon that's my guess. Trying to increase fitness after an early peak is impossiblle, you have to re-start the training and work up gradually.
Not all athletes respond to equally to the same training. See page 6 of Daniels RF Second Edition.
The same think happened to my daughter the last year. Turns out she can't handle / does not need that much anaerobic work.
Now she is is running well on a diet of lots of aerobic running and one speed day per week. Could be a blood PH thing.
She seems to be about the same level as your daughter. My girls is a 5:15 miler.
I agree all kids are different and its tough in a large program(over 125 kids,3 coaches) to dial every kid in and be attentive to all aspects of an athlete. I think the coaches are if it's no broke then don't fix it.I know many kids, like my daughter won't speak up on small issues. Also not all kids are the same and in a big program it's hard to get individual attention since others are also worthy of the time and effort of the coach. Coaching is a tough job so many needs and so few hours. Also blood is all good, full work up and thanks for the insight. Good luck to yours.
How's she doing?
Better and thanks so much for your interest. Resting heart rate was down to 57 (I will be called out for knowing)this morning. She ran 6 miles yesterday, slower then she likes but not slow enough. But ran 5 miles today at a slower pace after listening to some others then her dad. Legs are feeling better, not sore like before. No racing this week, just slow running we hope. Coach is wanting a workout at 53, hoping to put that off until 2-3 days at that level.
trackdad5837 wrote:
Better and thanks so much for your interest. Resting heart rate was down to 57 (I will be called out for knowing)this morning. She ran 6 miles yesterday, slower then she likes but not slow enough. But ran 5 miles today at a slower pace after listening to some others then her dad. Legs are feeling better, not sore like before. No racing this week, just slow running we hope. Coach is wanting a workout at 53, hoping to put that off until 2-3 days at that level.
How's she been doing lately? Any updates?
Not very good, been a struggle. Doctor said it seems to have been Enterovirus 68. Hopefully time off will help to get her strength back, still running but an uphill battle.
trackdad5837 wrote:
I have a 17 year old daughter who until this week has been running 55-58 miles per week since the first week of August. She's a little bigger for a distance kid 5' 8" and 131lbs, very well muscled. Started mid-June with 40 MPW building up to the 55. They race once a week most weeks and do workouts 2 other days a week. Weeks with no races 3 workouts. Started doing workouts at the end of June,but not 3 days a week to start.
Workout are 1000-1200 repeats, mile repeats 4 mile tempo's and etc... They are hard and fasted paced workouts(like 2 mile wu, then 5 1 mile repeats 2 5:55-5:58 pace 3 minute recovery and 2 mile cd) She's had only a couple of Sunday's off since June.
She had any early season race a 4K at 14:38, then a 5K at 18:59(on a moderate hard course) and seemed to be heading in the right direction, feeling good and strong. Had a week off from racing and had a heavy work load 58 miles 3 workouts. Next week she a tempo workout that went poorly(couldn't shift gears at the end), didn't give much thought until the Saturday race. It was horrible slipped to a 19:55 dead heavy legs and very tired. This past Saturday she raced, easier course and dropped back to 5th on team. She had a mileage drop this week to 35MPW.
First we thought iron issues, ferritin is 84 and 69 on the iron so all good. Did more blood work no other issues everything was very good. She has an excellent diet, fruits, veg., lean protein and healthy carbs. We are thinking over-training. Any thoughts? She is meeting with her coach during a free period at school on Monday. She was hoping to have some ideas to speak with the coach on.
If its over-training what are the solutions? Have a meet this weekend and would like to get heading back in the right direction.
I've dealt with this situation a million times (had a very old school coach once). Email me and I'll gladly help.
I just realized it didn't link my email address. Fixed.
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