GATLIN - 9.77. POST IF YOU THINK HE'S CLEAN

trust meeeeeee wrote:

His first time was an accident (I believe that)

2nd time was stupid because if he stayed clean in my opinion would have challenged bolt when he ran 9.69 in beijing, but we will never know.

I remember it- it was an accident. I believe ADHD medicine.

Truly amazing to watch. It's too bad because of his history but once he was half way thru the 200 when he was clearly pushing it...I thought to myself, how crazy would it be if Bolt went for a double in the DL final.

Very cool to watch but sad because he is a two-time doper. Plus he won $60K tonight.

beyond that, this was track at its best. every event today was great to watch.

"F*** It. I now root for Gatlin"

You too?

I'm currently a big fan of Gatlin, the Spurs, the Seahawks and whoever won the hell won the World Series last year.

Almost forgot, also Thompson with Vicaut at 9.95

Vicaut, Thompson, KBC, your 2014 best.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Everybody knows that I think the fastest ever recorded cleanly are Bailey and Surin at 9.84,

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I'm picking myself up off the floor after falling out of my chair laughing so hard.

Well, you've got some reason, and I've been through this extensively on another thread. There wasn't enough evidence to push me over the edge, but Bailey's association with Galea came very close IIRC. I could look it up.

All these things are judgment calls, YMMV, and I respect that.

PEDs have lifelong effects. After you use steroids you will never be a "clean" athlete.

trust meeeeeee wrote:cold medicine 1st time FACT! wasn't PEDs

Second time he was a fool!

Gets more stick then he deserves

You are guys are so naive. You realize that the drug he tested positive for is used as a masking agent? He is a doper, he doesn't get enough stick. As is the case with 99% of world class sprinters.

He is the most tested sprinter on circuit , he has a bulls eye on his back.

His times and performances are clean.

If you dare Ill bet any amount of money you wish to back up your claim , ball is in your court.

Cheer fo the X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His first 20 is always craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, yeah, he's clean.

And he has a conscience, too.

ha!

ondnad wrote:

I've just come to accept that nobody can run sub 9.80 without drugs or wind. Not even bolt.

You've come to accept it? What do you even mean? If you can provide solid evidence that everyone who's ever run sub 9.80 you might have some credence to your "acceptance" of your own made up fact of life. It's funny how most of you guys who throw accusation towards the world class sprinters shy away from casting suspicion towards your distance runner idols like Rupp. Rupp just ran a pb in the 1500 and all the fan boys hopped on the accomplishment saying how it's exceptional for a 10k runner to have ran that fast and there have been previous discussions on how he could run an 11 second 100 or whatever. Well if he's capable of so many of these incredible running feats I'll mimic you and say that "I've just come to accept that no 10k runner can run sub 3:35 without drugs. Not even Rupp" because that has just as much validity as your statement about sprinters.

[quote]trust meeeeeee wrote:

can't deny that but come on would he really be stupid to so it again?

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You mean again and again

surely he can't be on drugs, it took him years to get accepted back in the athletics community, only an idiot will do that again.

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What is the alternative how else is he going to get that sort of money

To those saying everyone is doping at last we don't 100% know that they are doping.

Gatlin is running as well if not better know than when he was younger and on steroids. Did anyone else see him making that gun sign before the start as well. His eyes looked jacked to me as well and he dipped about 10m before the line and still won easily

DROGOS wrote:

trust meeeeeee wrote:

surely he can't be on drugs, it took him years to get accepted back in the athletics community, only an idiot will do that again.

What kind of person would get caught twice?

Ben Johnson.

It must be really sad to regularly watch a sport you consider every decent participant of a cheater. These guys are tested frequently -- let yourself enjoy this. Enjoy watching Gatlin right now. I am, and it's great.

NJ Possible wrote:

It must be really sad to regularly watch a sport you consider every decent participant of a cheater. These guys are tested frequently -- let yourself enjoy this. Enjoy watching Gatlin right now. I am, and it's great.

no - I will not let myself enjoy this &*^^&*. He cheated at least once - why are you willing to forgive him? Really - if a guy stole something you really cared about...but had to check in with his parole officer every month - would you cheer him on?

The guy is a cheat and a thief - good people should not cheer him on.

relatedly, what does he mean by this quote? what kind of vigilante is he? What's he fighting against exactly?

In the meantime, Gatlin's words from a recent ESPN profile seem particularly enlightened: "I look at myself as the 'Batman' of track—a vigilante. You may not like me, but I'm needed."

Really - what does he mean here?

NJ Possible wrote:

These guys are tested frequently

And this is proof of...what? Ever hear of that cyclist, you know, the American guy, who passed something like 250+ drug tests but never had a positive result? You have really bought into the mass delusion.

R U Serius? wrote:

NJ Possible wrote:

These guys are tested frequently

And this is proof of...what? Ever hear of that cyclist, you know, the American guy, who passed something like 250+ drug tests but never had a positive result? You have really bought into the mass delusion.

could we stop with this myth that lance never tested positive? He did, multiple times. The bike people were weak in the knees and didn't prosecute:

The International Cycling Union has defended its actions after it was confirmed that Lance Armstrong returned test samples with traces of corticosteroids four times during the 1999 Tour de France.

It had previously been known that the former US Postal rider, who in January confessed to drug use, had tested positive for the substance once.

But the UCI has confirmed a leaked internal memo stating that there were actually four positive tests.

At the time, the UCI accepted that the banned traces came from cream used to treat saddle-soreness after Armstrong produced a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) certificate.

He admitted this year the medical certificate had been backdated.

In a nine-page document explaining the background, the UCI also confirmed that re-tests of Armstrong's 1999 samples in 2005 also showed the presence of the blood-boosting agent EPO.

The lack of B samples to test, however, made it impossible to charge Armstrong with a doping offence.

The governing body's document states in relation to the corticosteroid findings: "It should be stressed that this case was handled knowing only the facts which were apparent at that time.

NJ Possible wrote:

It must be really sad to regularly watch a sport you consider every decent participant of a cheater.

I mentioned one athlete, Ben Johnson. Reading comprehension on this board is laughable. And what does "...you consider every decent participant of a cheater" mean? It seems your attempt at the correct usage of grammar is as contorted and dismal as your reading comprehension.