GALEN 13:00.99

Sciatica Road wrote:

He was in the lead at the bell, and the guy that jumped in front with 250m to go, appeared to slow down dramatically, where Rupp was boxed, and had to slow to try and get around on the turn.

By letsrun standards he should be DQd for slowing down and impeding Rupp, no? Lol

At this level it's extremely difficult to be shooting for a PR AND racing for the win against those who aren't worried about a PR.

Nike should have a PR meet where winning has nothing to do with getting paid; only running fast matters, on whatever pay structure they deem acceptable. The rest of the year the guys could just race, don't even put a clock out so they don't know their time along the way, it ruins the racing.

Rupp mentioned in an interview that this year was about racing/learning better tactics looking forward to WC and olympics next two years.

Seems he got a decent lesson today while still managing a respectable finish. At some point I would still like to see him make a hard push with 1 mile to go, as strong as he is it is hard for me to believe he would place any worse than he has been.

yyy wrote:

amazing, Soi first and so far only runner sub-13 this year.

Where are Merga and Gebrehiwet(sp?)?

. Improved drug testing has been bringing the E Africans back to Earth in some ways. On the other hand it does show how sissified most whytes are now. They can't match the European runners of 30 years ago, never mind today's E Africans, with the exceptions of Rupp and Jager.

What ya know? wrote:

Rupp mentioned in an interview that this year was about racing/learning better tactics looking forward to WC and olympics next two years.

Seems he got a decent lesson today while still managing a respectable finish. At some point I would still like to see him make a hard push with 1 mile to go, as strong as he is it is hard for me to believe he would place any worse than he has been.

Every day, Alberto goes to the track and sees himself getting outputted and out kicked by Henry Rono. He remains determined to fix that through Rupp. He's done a brilliant job improving Rupp's finishing speed, but Rupp will never win a race like the DL in the last 150. He needs to have a chat with Marty Liquori about how to use his speed to finish and win a 5000.

Tribe wrote:

Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:

Every race with a bunch of great runners has some of them crashing an burning. Then idiots like you look up the crashed and burned and say, "Oh look, (fill in name of favorite American runner) beat Crash and Burn 1 and Crash and Burn 2."

Seriously, how idiotic can you get?

There's a point to his post. It was obviously way over your head.

INCORRECT!

But you tried really hard. Maybe you'd like to give is another shot.

Rupp is not Liquori or Lagat, and he's sure not Henry Rono, who wasn't afraid to win his races from the front.

In fact, Rono ran 13:06 / 27:22 and won because he ran faster times than Salazar, not because he was faster on the kick.

Agree, but given Liquori's best 5,000 is 13:15 and change, do you have actual splits to compare his finishing speed vs. Rupp's 400m or 1k closes? And what were the winning times in those races?

East Africans kinda hijacked the pace, for good reason, as they had confidence in their kicks and just wanted to win and collect some scalps. Unfortunately, Rupp just didn't have the wheels...

Walter White wrote:

Seems like the Oregon project should hire Sambu to pace Rupp because he has been screwed in these last 2 5k's. I think Rupp needs to be put into an insanely fast pace where people are falling off or barely hanging on in order to break the American record.

yes

First thing first: The pacing job SUCKED!!! Okay, maybe if you're 3-4 seconds off, but how do you end up 11 seconds off your intended split time? This is what happens when you order a 13:11 5k guy to pace a race through 3k for people who are trying to run sub-12:50... He's a 13:11 guy, could have even ran 7:42 if he wanted?

And Oslo and Paris, have actually been really good showings for Galen, I'm very impressed w/ his speed, and he looks a lot more confident in DL races than I have seen him in the past... Plus, think about this, for 10k, many of these 5k studs won't be around, and his shots of medaling top 3 at global championships in the 10k are very good!

Galen is not going to take control of a hot race like this, it's hard for a guy like him to run 61 flats by himself, so if the race gets tactical he's going to race, and throw the record out... Galen Rupp is no Jenny Simpson or Emma Coburn, NOPers rarely lead for record except indoor TT's, but of course Jenny and Emma, are doing 1500m and 3k steeple so it's slightly easier for them...

Is Galen going to run another fast 5k in the DL this year? There's a 10k at DL Brussels and I figured he might do that, but if he doesn't get it next time I have to imagine he will choose 5k at Brussels...

telecran wrote:

I get so caught up in the Rupp-bashing that I forget that 4th is actually a really respectable performance

For the guy who got paid more than the rest of the field combined.

The Donger wrote:

By letsrun standards he should be DQd for slowing down and impeding Rupp, no? Lol

Did anyone run Rupp out into lane 3?

No?

Then STFU.

Evidence? How do you know what the other guys are paid?

So let me get this straight: If Rupp doesn't PR every time out, he's a chump?

I'm glad I didn't grow up with the internet and just appreciated talent when I saw it. You fun runners are too much.

Naturally, right? wrote:

At this level it's extremely difficult to be shooting for a PR AND racing for the win against those who aren't worried about a PR.

Nike should have a PR meet where winning has nothing to do with getting paid; only running fast matters, on whatever pay structure they deem acceptable. The rest of the year the guys could just race, don't even put a clock out so they don't know their time along the way, it ruins the racing.

One of the dumbest things I've ever read. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

Actually some of these posts are correct if you have seen enough

No one went with original pacemakers at all

That, in and of itself turned this into a much faster tactical type final of a big race. And , I am not a conspiracy theory guy, but it did seem in hindsight to be deliberate.

2:36.x fractions was not what folks had wanted nor expected, 7:53 was bullshit so they said.Altho even the wind up was not what I would have thought at all.

Rupp did not fare as poorly as some make it out to be.

Sometimes I get the feeling that he's not really in 12:45 shape.

This is what I'm getting sick of. Pacing not being what is expected in a DL races. Admittedly I missed the broadcast of this race. But over and over I have heard the British commentators do a race where they are disappointed in the pace and feign surprise. When 80% of the time the pacing is disappointing, at a certain point you have to concede it as the norm and be surprised when the pace is what is wanted.

Trialswatcher wrote:

Actually some of these posts are correct if you have seen enough

No one went with original pacemakers at all

That, in and of itself turned this into a much faster tactical type final of a big race. And , I am not a conspiracy theory guy, but it did seem in hindsight to be deliberate.

2:36.x fractions was not what folks had wanted nor expected, 7:53 was bullshit so they said.Altho even the wind up was not what I would have thought at all.

Rupp did not fare as poorly as some make it out to be.

I'm ready to see Mo back in the mix. Can he still produce? Can he control the end game and come out on top?