Okay, so to settle a dispute I would like to pose a question that is really not meant to ruffle any feathers, so to speak. A teammate and I were wondering in the 4 x 400m relay or 1600m relay why do people say that the anchor runs the farthest distance, and that the lead-off man runs the shortest amount. Could anyone possibly shed some light upon this subject?
The lead leg runs the longest obviously. The anchor runs the shortest.
The handoff from one runner to the next will generally occur before hitting the common finish line. So, the first guy hands off before completing the full 400 meters (or whatever). The last guy usually takes the baton before the finish line so he has to cover the small distance from handoff to finish line and then his full 400 meter lap (or whatever) for his leg.
Have any of you ever ran or watched the 4x4? The handoff zone is 20 meters long so depending on where each leg takes the baton:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 400 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 410m
lagsun wrote:
Have any of you ever ran or watched the 4x4? The handoff zone is 20 meters long so depending on where each leg takes the baton:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 400 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 410m
FIXED:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 380 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 390 to 410m
malmo wrote:
lagsun wrote:Have any of you ever ran or watched the 4x4? The handoff zone is 20 meters long so depending on where each leg takes the baton:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 400 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 410m
FIXED:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 380 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 390 to 410m
Malmo,
Forgot about the 3-turn stagger so I think leg 2 can run less than 400 depending on where they take and hand off baton.
However, leg 3 cannot run less than 400 and leg 4 cannot run less than 410 because then they would be getting the starting outside of the zone.
Malmo is correct
Malmo, as usual, is right here. The zone adjusts for a 3 turn stagger.
lagsun wrote:
Have any of you ever ran or watched the 4x4? The handoff zone is 20 meters long so depending on where each leg takes the baton:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 400 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 410m
How do you write that the handoff zone is 20 meters long and then follow that up by saying the anchor leg has to run exactly 410 meters?
Like the anchor guys are just standing still 10 meters in front of the line, take the baton and then run 410? Are you dumb or just stupid?
And how do you not understand that the runner in legs 2 or 3 could take the baton further into the exchange zone than he passes it off, thereby running less than 400 meters?
It's just funny to me that you could understand that the exchange zone is 20 meters long and then screw up everything else. You got the technical information and screwed up the 3rd grade math. Way to go partner, go sit up a few plays, huh?
Journey wrote:
lagsun wrote:Have any of you ever ran or watched the 4x4? The handoff zone is 20 meters long so depending on where each leg takes the baton:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 400 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 410m
How do you write that the handoff zone is 20 meters long and then follow that up by saying the anchor leg has to run exactly 410 meters?
Like the anchor guys are just standing still 10 meters in front of the line, take the baton and then run 410? Are you dumb or just stupid?
And how do you not understand that the runner in legs 2 or 3 could take the baton further into the exchange zone than he passes it off, thereby running less than 400 meters?
It's just funny to me that you could understand that the exchange zone is 20 meters long and then screw up everything else. You got the technical information and screwed up the 3rd grade math. Way to go partner, go sit up a few plays, huh?
It is funny to me that you cannot have a civil conversation with someone on LR when there is a disagreement. Why resort to name calling? The poster was in no way mean, rude or nasty in his post.
lagsun wrote:
malmo wrote:FIXED:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 380 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 390 to 410m
Malmo,
Forgot about the 3-turn stagger so I think leg 2 can run less than 400 depending on where they take and hand off baton.
However, leg 3 cannot run less than 400 and leg 4 cannot run less than 410 because then they would be getting the starting outside of the zone.
Fool. Malmo stated that Leg 2 can run less than 400 meters, then you try to correct him (using incorrect information) to state that Leg 2 can run less than 400 meters. Can you read?
Legs 3 and 4 do not have to take the baton until 10 meters past the line, so they can easily run less than 400 meters. Leg 3 especially since he can hand off up to 10 meters in front of the line. Malmo's distances were correct.
Please stop posting Lagsun. Not just on this thread, but altogether.
Journey wrote:
lagsun wrote:Have any of you ever ran or watched the 4x4? The handoff zone is 20 meters long so depending on where each leg takes the baton:
- The leadoff can run from 390 to 410 meters
- legs 2 & 3 can run from 400 to 420 meters
- anchor runs 410m
How do you write that the handoff zone is 20 meters long and then follow that up by saying the anchor leg has to run exactly 410 meters?
Like the anchor guys are just standing still 10 meters in front of the line, take the baton and then run 410? Are you dumb or just stupid?
And how do you not understand that the runner in legs 2 or 3 could take the baton further into the exchange zone than he passes it off, thereby running less than 400 meters?
It's just funny to me that you could understand that the exchange zone is 20 meters long and then screw up everything else. You got the technical information and screwed up the 3rd grade math. Way to go partner, go sit up a few plays, huh?
If the athlete is running before they receive the baton then doesn't this count for distance? Or does the distance they run before they get the baton not count?
For example, if the anchor is at the beginning of the exchange zone, starts running when the 3rd leg approaches and receives the baton at the finish line, does the anchor run 400 meters or 410?
Don't confuse this with split times which is when the baton passes the finish line (or halfway through the zone on the 3 turn stagger).
lagsun wrote:If the athlete is running before they receive the baton then doesn't this count for distance? Or does the distance they run before they get the baton not count?
For example, if the anchor is at the beginning of the exchange zone, starts running when the 3rd leg approaches and receives the baton at the finish line, does the anchor run 400 meters or 410?
Don't confuse this with split times which is when the baton passes the finish line (or halfway through the zone on the 3 turn stagger).
Wow - no that doesn't count.
lagsun wrote:If the athlete is running before they receive the baton then doesn't this count for distance? Or does the distance they run before they get the baton not count?
For example, if the anchor is at the beginning of the exchange zone, starts running when the 3rd leg approaches and receives the baton at the finish line, does the anchor run 400 meters or 410?
Don't confuse this with split times which is when the baton passes the finish line (or halfway through the zone on the 3 turn stagger).
Jake from State Farm wrote:
Wow - no that doesn't count.
Yeah, but, when the anchor runs past the finishline, doesn't that count for something? Like 490m or 600m or 800m? ;)