paul short invitational

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Josh McD wins in solid field over Bobby Curtis in 23:43 to :53.

Gtown beats Nova 94-101, Auburn 3rd, Lasalle 4th.

where are the results being posted?

any news?

more results!!!

bump

women??

Good run for the guys up front. Nova and G-town sat 2 of there top 7 runners so it will be a good match up at BIG EAST. Very fast course today, hard, no wind.

also official results soon at

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inpshort/PSLayer.htm#

UT women dominate... Homan first woman across

http://utladyvols.collegesports.com/sports/w-xc/recaps/092504aac.html

1 Joshua McDougal 0:23:43.53 951 Liberty

2 robert curtis 0:23:53.19 1210 Villanova

3 Lucas Meyer 0:23:59.99 1248 YALE

4 Macharia Yuot 0:24:00.32 1241 Widener

5 Dustin Lieb 0:24:10.66 1184 UPenn

6 Mike DiDio 0:24:13.74 1101 St Joes

7 Austin Smith 0:24:14.29 1035 Princeton

8 Fleet Hower 0:24:14.85 818 Georgetown

9 Chris Lukezic 0:24:15.31 822 Georgetown

10 Adam Tenerowicz 0:24:17.68 1234 Wm&Mary

11 andrew heath 0:24:20.00 729 Auburn

12 Casey Moriarty 0:24:21.00 1249 YALE

13 Frank McCreery 0:24:26.31 1029 Princeton

14 Chris Foster 0:24:27.40 1041 PSU

15 chris george 0:24:29.68 728 Auburn

16 marc pelerin 0:24:31.05 1218 Villanova

17 John Butler 0:24:33.17 881 La Salle

18 Chris Esselborn 0:24:33.61 814 Georgetown

19 John Ciccarelli 0:24:37.03 1058 Richmond

20 Ryan Fennelly 0:24:39.09 887 La Salle

21 sam pawluk 0:24:39.92 1217 Villanova

22 Stephan Hayes 0:24:45.69 1178 UPenn

23 Dan Mazzocco 0:24:47.39 1046 PSU

24 David Murphy 0:24:48.05 1232 Wm&Mary

25 Tim Carroll 0:24:49.36 883 La Salle

26 Brian Donovan 0:24:49.65 1141 TCNJ

27 Paul Rosa 0:24:50.57 1034 Princeton

28 craig segal 0:24:51.41 1219 Villanova

29 chris walsh 0:24:51.75 734 Auburn

30 Allen Pryde 0:24:52.03 1091 Ship

31 Patrick Dantzer 0:24:52.64 1243 YALE

32 Dan McGrath 0:24:53.66 889 La Salle

33 Dan Nunn 0:24:55.76 826 Georgetown

34 Jon Healey 0:24:57.29 1226 Wm&Mary

35 Brian Dalpiaz 0:24:59.92 812 Georgetown

36 patrick philbin 0:25:01.26 731 Auburn

37 Breton Bonnette 0:25:01.55 1172 UPenn

38 david riddle 0:25:01.86 732 Auburn

39 Nolan Tully 0:25:02.25 1192 UPenn

40 matt tillman 0:25:02.75 733 Auburn

41 david vanorsdel 0:25:03.20 1220 Villanova

42 Troy Werner 0:25:03.68 1195 UPenn

43 patrick mouser 0:25:04.38 730 Auburn

44 Sean Quigley 0:25:05.38 891 La Salle

45 Frank Tinney 0:25:05.85 1038 Princeton

46 Josh Yelsey 0:25:06.22 1254 YALE

47 Joel Moceri 0:25:06.44 1049 PSU

48 Rob Hampson 0:25:07.05 930 Lehigh

49 Nathan Clute 0:25:07.58 1242 YALE

50 Teddy Meyers 0:25:08.03 1107 St Joes

How fast is this course? Is it pancake-flat or close to it? People always seem to PR there.

FLAT

infarction wrote:

also official results soon at

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inpshort/PSLayer.htm#

Since this site doesn't appear to work try:

It's fast, but not pancake flat. On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 is easy), I'd say a 3. The 1st mile is totally flat. Second has a long, very gradual upgrade, then becomes flat. The third starts downhill, then rolls a little, and the inexperienced runners have problems on it because they got sucked out by the easy terrain of the first 2.5 miles. If you stay to watch the lower caliber teams, you see a fair number sucking wind at the 3 mile marker. Four is slight up grade, flat through the middle, slight down hill. The first half of the fifth is slightly uphill, which once again kills the inexperienced guys because they're dead by now. 600 or so from the end, you go downhill and then it flattens out for a long straightaway.

there are much much faster.

hi i can post now!

don't we go through this every year? i always thought it was pretty much a given that this course is a little short. but whatever, it's cross country.

Yeah people who have never run there bring it up each year... The course has been around for ages with many many championship meets run there. It is very legit. Pretty flat but not so much so as to be a joke. If it's a good day, people will run pretty fast.